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darkpaloma 11-27-2010 07:51 PM

Please Critique Cochise (if you can) be mean even!
 
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:shock:The pics aren't great but I have no one to take the pic whilst I hold him and keep in mind HE WILL NOT BE BREEDING FOR ABOUT A YEAR I am not yelling just clarifying that so people wont think I am just letting him go at it.:shock:

I need him Critiqued because he is a stallion and I have quit a few people wanting to breed there mares to him, he is registered APHA under Two M Chief Bluestock.

look here:

Two M Chief Bluestock Paint

I need to know if he has a good enough conformation because I don't want to put a whole bunch of unwanted and unusable babies out there. Please critique him the pics that are uploaded are from the night I bought him, he was dirty and he is about 250 lbs underweight right now, and at the moment he really needs some TLC so he wont be breeding for about a year or so until he gets back on his feet. Oh and please tell me what you think of his lineage?

(I don't care what your comments are as long as they are truthful I wont take offense, I am looking for honest opinions here)


Thanks for your time!

Piaffe 11-27-2010 08:04 PM

I love his markings! Cant critique tho

equiniphile 11-27-2010 08:11 PM

It's super hard to critique a picture where the horse is not squared up, especially when the camera is angled. If you get a picture of him standing square with the camera not an an angle but straight-on, we'd be more than happy to critique him. Right now though, you're going to get an unjust evaluation and things are going to seem like major confo faults when they're, in fact, nonexistant.

darkpaloma 11-27-2010 08:15 PM

I cant get the shots
 
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Originally Posted by equiniphile (Post 831374)
It's super hard to critique a picture where the horse is not squared up, especially when the camera is angled. If you get a picture of him standing square with the camera not an an angle but straight-on, we'd be more than happy to critique him. Right now though, you're going to get an unjust evaluation and things are going to seem like major confo faults when they're, in fact, nonexistant.

even construed is better than nothing right now, give me something to work with, my friends are trying to crawl up my back asking me to breed there mares for his color (homozygous Overo Gene) thanks for looking though!

ShutUpJoe 11-27-2010 10:02 PM

I'm going to be honest, I'm no pro at this so take it as it is. I don't like his back end. He looks sickle hocked. His chest looks funny. It looks like he is built uphill. He kind of looks to be on the thin side or maybe wormy.... His butt needs to be filled in. His withers seem kind of odd to me. Maybe it's the way his neck ties into them... I'm not sure.

faye 11-27-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutUpJoe (Post 831485)
It looks like he is built uphill.

When did that become a fault? being buillt uphill (withers higher then croup) is desireable in riding horses.

Personaly i think there is something wrong with his back end and from those photos alone I would say no he is not special enough to breed from. There are hundreds of Average stallions out there but i firmly believe that you should only breed the absolute best to the best to create quality youngstock. Breeding purely for colour is madness.

However, please dont take this as gospil untill you can get critique on a better confo shot of him in better condition.

Deerly 11-27-2010 10:21 PM

What's special enough about him to breed him? There are plenty of accomplished, exceptional studs that have that coloration.

It looks like he's standing under himself behind and there's something funny about his shoulder. Generally he could use a lot more muscle and better pictures but really... why WOULD you breed him?

Instead of trying to poke holes in him (which I'm not qualified to do) what is so special about him that warrants being bred on the opposite side? Just because it's possible and "passable" doesn't really mean much, does it? :S There are plenty "passable" horses out there, why contribute?

HorseOfCourse 11-27-2010 10:31 PM

He looks both sickle hocked and cow hocked to me.

equiniphile 11-27-2010 10:35 PM

Again, maybe these comments wouldn't be so if the confo shots were half-decent. If your friends want to breed to him that bad and think he's so spectacular he's breeding quality, they can wait a few days for you to get some decent quality shots. I'm not going to even try to critique him right now because you won't like what you hear.

reining girl 11-27-2010 10:47 PM

are you freaking kidding me!! your honestly going to breed him. DEFINANTLY NOT BREEDING QUALITY AT ALL!!!!! GELD HIM GELD HIM GELD HIM!!!!! but but he can throw color, my friends want to bred there mares (which im sure there "stellar" looking to) freakin ridiculous. there are plenty of WELL COMFORMED, WELL BRED, PROVEN paint studs out there, and yours aint one of them. but i know you wont listen because none of them do, but maybe by being mean it will actually get threw to you.... worth a try.


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