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lilkitty90 11-28-2010 09:20 PM

English saddle ouchie!!!!
 
so i'm a western rider. and i've been teaching my horse to jump. my mustang is now easily jumping 3" and i'm so proud of her! i ride in a light weight saddle thats honestly about 10-15 pounds. and i've always wanted to ride English and try jumping in an english saddle as i'd love to do Xc or show jumping one day!! well my friend has an english saddle in her barn and told me i could go put it on my horse and finally test one out. i'm all excited! yippee! so i get there and her saddle only has 1 stirrup leather so i spend like 30 minutes trying to figure out how to attach the other darn thing! i finally get it on and i'm so proud because i figure it out myself. i put it on my horse and get on and off my horse several times to get my leathers adjusted properly. and i'm all good for about the first 20 minutes. my complaints are #1 where the stirupps attach and that buckle is. it raises that little flap up and it rubs the insides of my leg. but thats a VERY minor complaint compared to the other... complaint #2 the darned stirrup leather kept pinching my calf between my horse and the darn piece of leather and now i have a bruise far larger then my hand! how are these problems solved?? i'd like to try it again but minus the bruising. i only rode in it for about 30 minutes too i don't know if maybe i did something wrong that made it do that or what but owwwww. also i understand why english riders wear helmets! that dang english saddle is easy to fall out of. luckily i didn't try falling but still my horse refused EVERY jump in that saddle and it's SO easy to go over. but in my western saddle you don't even pop up. i don't know if thats because the cantle or if maybe i'm used to it and have more confidence staying on. helmet next time! and any suggestions on how to fix those issues??

Delfina 11-28-2010 09:28 PM

Breeches, paddock boots + half chaps or tall boots.

I ended up with giant bruises that were oozing blood from taking Dressage lessons while waiting for my Half-Chaps to arrive in the mail. Not fun!

lilkitty90 11-28-2010 09:30 PM

yeah i was assuming maybe thats why English riders wear such tall boots. i wore boots but mine were apparently about 3-4 inches too short!

Oxer 11-28-2010 09:34 PM

yep. no more fenders on your saddle to keep your legs comfy. gotta get some half chaps. :)

Rhivia 11-28-2010 10:03 PM

I definitely agree that half-chaps or tall boots help!

About the spot where the leathers attach to the saddle, though... That is the saddle, and there's not really anything you can do about it. My first saddle had the same thing, because it was a cheap saddle, and I would always have bruises on my thighs from it. Ouch.. I guess it's cheaper to make them that way, because my new saddle is a lot nicer, and the buckle where it connects is sort of recessed into the saddle a bit and it doesn't push the flaps up.

If you're really serious about english riding, I would consider looking into getting a Collegiate. It's what I have and they're reasonably priced and excellent quality! ...and sooo confortable. :)

Sunny 11-28-2010 10:13 PM

Yes, either get paddock boots and half chaps or tall boots. Those leathers can leave some nasties.

Like someone else said, the stirrup bars tend to be bulkier and poke out a lot more in cheaper saddles.

It's likely your horse was refusing the jumps because you were uncomfortable and unbalanced and it made him uncomfortable and unbalanced.

Also, jumping western=big no-no. Not just because they are heavier, but the horn. If your horse over-jumped, the horn can jab you in the stomach and cause internal injuries. Scary stuff.
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lilkitty90 11-28-2010 10:16 PM

i definitely wanna save up for a nice jumping saddle but i'm definitely gonna be scrounging and saving those pennies!! i do understand the horn issue but thats why i make sure to stay up off the horn and give myself plenty of room. she has over jumped before and thats something i'm prepared for. and my saddle IS lighter than the english saddle i used. thats why i loved my western saddle so much! it's much easier to keep clean and for me to tack up then with a huge heavy western saddle

tinyliny 11-28-2010 10:33 PM

Yeah, half chaps are a must. I had a similar experience when I first got cowboy boots. If I didn't wear tall socks (taller than the top of the cowboy boot), I would get a bit of the skin just at the top of the boot lip pinched between the boot and the fender. So must have tall boot socks with cowboy boots and must have half chaps with English saddle. I LOVE half chaps. They are so cozy and make me looke cool!
Your horse probably refused the jump either because he knew you were not secure in your balance, OR that saddle didn't fit him and he knew that jumping would make it hurt worse.

Shimla101 11-29-2010 01:02 PM

I'd also suggest spending some time getting the feel of an english saddle, your position in an English saddle is a whole lot of different compared to your position in a Western saddle. Before you start popping over 3ft fences, work on your balance over smaller fences first. You know that your horse is making the height easily, so there's no need to injure yourself :)

And as everyone else said....halfchaps are your legs' best friend! :)

lilkitty90 11-29-2010 06:32 PM

yes definitely! i want to practice over much smaller so she is more willing even though i'm unbalanced. she also doesn't have alot of confidence and we are working on building that up. i did only try the 3ft fences in the english because i knew i wouldn't be riding long and didn't have time to rearrange and lower the standards to a much smaller height for her! but i am looking into trying it again with much taller boots!


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