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i took lessons when i was about 4 years old. then i stopped riding for a few years. i went to summer camp when i was about 10/11 years old and went there for the past 3 summers. then in December of 06' i finally got my own horse! he was a green, full of energy, chunky 8 year old Quarter Horse/Appaloosa cross. he was a nice horse when i rode him in the driveway but if i tried to ride him in the pasture hed take off in a canter, which i had never cantered before in my life! he did this about 3 times, almost taking me threw an electric fence...eventually i grew afraid to ride him so i didnt and he was the type of horse that if you didnt ride him almost everyday hed act up. so i sold him to my friend. then after owning him for a year i got a "sapposidly" beginner safe horse. she was a 10 year old abused, starved, neglected Thoroughbred mare. well shes a good horse, better then my first horse but she needs to be worked. my friend and i rode her for the first time in January and Ginger FREAKED and jumped over a snow pile with my friend on her, my friend lost her sturrup and her leg got banged up since it hit the side of the pastures gate. so then in February we rode her again. she was great, alittle spunky for a few minutes then calmed down. then me and my friend recently rode her for 2 days straight, the first day she was once again spunky but soon calmed down. my barn owner said that she really isnt ready for a beginner yet and that i shouldnt ride her until she is alittle more in shape and is back into riding again. i was alittle upset since i would love to ride horses but everytime i get a horse i end up being afraid of them! but im not afriad to ride another boarders 16.3 hh 12 year old Thoroighbred gelding...i dont get it! okay well back to the story after that we rode her the next day and i sware she was better then any other lesson horse that i have ever ridden..it was like a miracle how much of an angel she was...and come to find out we think she is much older then 10 years old, my BO just told me she looks almost in her late teens because you can see all the bones in her face and she does have a bit of sway back but whatever. okay so my question to you guys is how do i become more confident on a horse that isnt yet "beginner safe" again and ive been riding for about 7 years on and off and im still a beginner! the only thing i can do on a horse is walk a trot. help!
One thing I noticed was you were riding in the open on horses that aren't really suited for people without much experience. That's an invatation for disaster! Start for a long time in confined and smaller areas. Keep doing this until both you and your horse are very comfortable before you go out in the open. That should help. And when you do ride out in the open the first few times take a friend on a calm, old bomb-proof horse. That should calm your horse down a bit.
Remember to stay calm!! That's the best thing i can say. If you get nervous so will your horse and if your riding a Tb there's going to be A LOT of nervous energy that can errupt. Even if you do think you get scared or nervous take a deep breath and use your energy to become Very relaxed.... this is where you have to fake it to make it.... even if you are scared out of your pants don't let your horse think that, make your horse think that you're a pro and this doesn't bother you at all!! just do a lot of work with her in a round pen or arena for a while to gain confidence.... and if for some reason you don't feel comfortable in the saddle, do some ground work drills on respect and trust....
well there in the process of building a ring which is really small. my TB mare was sapposidly "bombproof". we worked with her 2 days in a row and on the first day she was a mess, and was horrible. she would do sidepasses i think to get out of doing work and shes herd bound and gets all "prancy" and excited when she was away from the other horses. the next day we rode her she was a dream--she was better then alot of lesson horses that i have ridden in the past.
then yesterday i went to go lunge her since shes not really being put to work since its muddy and theres really no place to ride since the ring is just being built. she almost kicked me multiple times! it was a tad windy so i was thinking that that mite be the reason why she was acting like a complete a$$h**e. my friend said she is going to work her everyday as the weather gets nicer, so atleast i have some help with getting my horse to chill out. it just sucks because every horse that ive owned i end up being afraid of it, but yet im not afriad to ride another boarders 16.3hh TB gelding and hes spooky as ever! I DONT GET IT! ive had other people on another forum telling me to sell her and get lessons but i dont want to sell her. and i cant afford to take lessons. im basically stuck in a rut. my friend i know would help me learn to become a better rider. but stilll i dont know what to do. also everytime i ask her to canter on a lunge line she bucks and rears. it pisses me off to no end! im thinking that she is trying to dominate me but my friend cantered her undersaddle and she was fine. shes great one minute then can be the biggest a$$ uve ever met the next minute. it just sucks. when i went to see her at her old foster home she was this quiet, mellow, sort of shy horse. i even saw her on the lunge line W/T/C and she didnt try to give the other woman a hassle, she didnt even try to buck or rear. im stuck...
Abused, neglected, badly treated horses might be cheap to buy but they are not good for a beginner.
If you want to keep that horse you should ask an experienced trainer to help both you being more confident. The horse doesn't trust you because she is afraid of people and you don't trust her because she acts very unpredictable. As you wrote, you ride her very raphsodic: you don't ride her for a month and then ride her every day. Within one unridden mounth she will forget all she learned before that's why you should ask a good rider to ride her when you cannot do this.
The best horse for you is a 10-14 years old crossbred from a riding school which has been used for a school horse. They ususally don't look as well as a tb, but you will find more pleasure and self-confidency in riding.
she was starved and the owner was i guess a beginner. or that was what i was told :? but anyways id feel so selfish if i sold her becuase this is the same exact thing that happened with my old horse only he was green and we had uncapeable personalities. i would sell her but id feel really guilty becuase this would be the second horse that wasnt right for me.
If the horse is too much for you and you are afraid to even get on his back, then maybe the horse isn't the right one for you. I can't say there aren't things that I'm afraid to do with my horse...cantering is still my weak part...but I can do everything else with him.
If you REALLY want to keep the TB, start lessons. Use a lesson horse that is good for beginners and work with that horse all the time till your confidence builds up. Have someone else or your instructor ride your horse, so she gets excersize. Ride the lesson horse until you feel confident enough. Then switch to a different lesson horse, and do that one until you feel confident. Then do a lesson with your mare...the SECOND you get nervous...get off. And get on the lesson horse. Being frightened on a horse is the worst thing you can do.
If you are going to find a new horse, get one that is FULLY trained...previous lesson horse, and that is roughly 10-15 years of age. Ride the horse BEFORE you buy him/her. Ride him more than once...as many times as possible. Do a lesson with the horse (I did that with my horse before I bought him), and judge.
If I bought a horse that I wasn't confortable riding, or frightened to ride, I'd definately sell. I'd find the horse the best owner I could, and then look for a horse that suits my needs.
Also you would be selling her for a good reason...you are frightened to ride her. Being frightened on her can cause so much problems
the reason id feel bad is because this same exact thing happened with my first horse...only he use to take off on me :? i was thinking about moving to a better barn which is next door where they have 2 rings (indoor and outdoor) and a round pen and id only be paying 50$ more then i currently do and whenever i scrounge up the money ill try and take lessons. how does that sound?
oh and also i thought i should mention this to you guys. whenever i tack up my horse i feel a bit nervous and i think of riding as a nervous expierence for me because im always thinking "oh whats she going to do this time. is she going to rear and buck or what." its like i think of riding as something that'll make me nervous like i cant even enjoy it anymore :cry: :cry: :?
I can see how easy it is to tack up a horse, one that you aren't too comfortable riding in the first place and wondering what she's going to to next. I had the same problem...and still do occasionally. You just need to work with a good beginner lesson horse...build up confidence and try again.
Selling a horse is nothing to feel guilty on. You want a horse that you can trust..one that you don't have to be on guard all the time; wondering what they will pull next. I'm taking you just want a pleasure riding horse...if so then you want one that you can just hop on, and ride; with out having any fear or worry.
Changing barns might help, yet it might not. It depends. How long have you had the second one?
My horse Sonny took 2 weeks to adjust to a new barn after I bought him. And even after that he was still crazy and spooky. It might just be that she's not used to you as her new owner, and the place. But if you've had her for a while then that shouldn't be the case
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