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arastangrider 03-30-2008 10:35 PM

friesion cross
 
I was wondering if anyone knows much about friesion crosses i was thinking about getting a black arabian to breed to one to get a dressage baby that could show circuit do you know if the baby would have more arabian charictoristics or would it be better to get a friesion broodmare and breed her to an arabian i would much rather get an arabian because of price thanks

JustDressageIt 03-30-2008 10:38 PM

I find most Friesian crosses don't turn out well and don't sell well. Purebred Friesians are stunning, but when you try and breed them to something completely different? They turn out weird.
Friesians are more drafty types, and should stick to that... in my honest opinion I think a Friesian Arab cross would be just wierd.

arastangrider 03-31-2008 01:42 AM

here are some pics i found of arab/friesion crosses

http://www.horseforum.com/userpix/2814_f_1.jpg
http://www.horseforum.com/userpix/2814_ff_1.jpg
http://www.horseforum.com/userpix/2814_fff_2.jpg
http://www.horseforum.com/userpix/2814_ffffff_1.jpg
http://www.horseforum.com/userpix/2814_ffffffff_1.jpg
http://www.horseforum.com/userpix/2814_fffffffff_1.jpg
http://www.horseforum.com/userpix/2814_ffffffffff_1.jpg
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JMJ~Arabians 03-31-2008 01:59 AM

Well on the price factor it would be WAY cheaper to get an Arabian mare and breed to a Friesian. Friesian mares are VERY expensive, we're talking $10's of thousands for a quality one. Why don't you just look for some crosses for sale, you can get a decent price on a young one, just check dreamhorse or something. Would be cheaper and easier to just buy one. ;)

Here are some:

http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php...rse_id=1193527

http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php...rse_id=1177325

http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php...rse_id=1193523

http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php...rse_id=1186168

And the list goes on and on. There are alot of good horses for sale right now, especially in the US because of the fallout in the market. I was just at a sale in December and there were WELL broke horses going for less than $200......


Jenn

cheekyhorse 03-31-2008 11:23 AM

Well, it wouldn't be my first choice as a dressage horse. I am not a fan of Friesians or Friesian x's in dressage. They are carriage horses, and look spectacular as such, but they do not have the proper conformation traits for collection. They especially struggle in canter, they just aren't built the right way. You don't see many (if any) doing the upper levels of dressage and there is good reason for this.

JustDressageIt 03-31-2008 05:05 PM

arastangrider, some of those pictures you posted were of purebred Friesians. Yes, they are pretty.. but here are some Arab/Friesian crosses I don't like:
http://www.sanssouciarabianhorses.co...elat2years.jpg
http://www.crosswsporthorses.com/images/Bob2.jpg
http://www.crosswsporthorses.com/images/KCSold.jpg

Those are just some examples... problem is you can't just be selective with which pictures you want to look at. I wanted a Friesian/TB cross, and I was convinced the pair I had picked out would make a great pair... then I started opening my eyes and saw some not-so-nice crosses and thought it would be a dumb risk.
Personally, it takes a very trained eye to pick out the right mare and stallion cross to make a draft-type and light horse type turn out well... if you have that eye, go for it. If not, you might make something like the horses I mentioned above.
I personally think that you should stay within certain breed types to give yourself the best chance of making a good cross - i.e. light breeds with light breeds - Anglo Arabs are stunning, and the breeds compliment one another because they are similar to start with.... when I think Arab/Friesian cross, I think big dished head on a body that can't decide if it's delicate or heavy, and wierd feathers...

I don't mean to be harsh...

arastangrider 03-31-2008 05:16 PM

none of those horses are purebred friesons a few of them are only 30 percent arab. 400 years ago people started breeding friesions with a limited amount of arabian stallions to add refinment and a smaller head to the breed.

JustDressageIt 03-31-2008 05:22 PM

Okay. I was just trying to voice my opinion.

im4dressage 03-31-2008 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMJ~Arabians
Well on the price factor it would be WAY cheaper to get an Arabian mare and breed to a Friesian. Friesian mares are VERY expensive, we're talking $10's of thousands for a quality one. Why don't you just look for some crosses for sale, you can get a decent price on a young one, just check dreamhorse or something. Would be cheaper and easier to just buy one. ;)

Here are some:

http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php...rse_id=1193527

http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php...rse_id=1177325

http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php...rse_id=1193523

http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php...rse_id=1186168

And the list goes on and on. There are alot of good horses for sale right now, especially in the US because of the fallout in the market. I was just at a sale in December and there were WELL broke horses going for less than $200......


Jenn

I like the 3rd horse you posted and the 4th one looks like it will have great color and a good price range. Plus, she is the breed she is looking for.

JMJ~Arabians 04-01-2008 12:54 AM

Yeah, I feel the 3rd horse is VERY nice! Well put together and looks PURE to me! I actually favor the Friesian/Perch X myself, they make nice horses.

The 4th horse is Arab/Friesian and I DO really like this one. Good price and if I am not mistaken not too far away from the original poster either. ;) Maybe worth a looksie??

Jenn


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