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Gidget 12-28-2010 08:21 PM

help me please- girthy horse
 
I'll admitt..I made my horse cinchy/girthy....:-|:cry: I now have cause an issue to where is is most likely permanent which reaaaaally sucks.
Anyways,she tried biting me when I put her on the cross ties. I was afraid to go towards her face afterwards.She knew what was coming..I tried to use the girth that I have been using (44 leather girth)..well she has putting on weight that she needed and I realized the girth is too tight for her.I won't be using the girth anymore as I have caused her pain.

Is there anyway that I can help fix this to where she won't be threatening to take my hands and face off? I love my horse and I feel horrible that I did this to her. Some of you might yell at me for causing this issue but that is okay.

tinyliny 12-28-2010 08:26 PM

You mean you caused her to become girthy because you had her in a girth that was too tight, OR you did that because when she tried to bite you, you moved away from her (thus rewarding her bad behaviour and encouraging it to happen again?)

apachiedragon 12-28-2010 08:30 PM

I'd start out by just getting her into the cross ties and grooming her, especially around the girth area. Let her know that just because she is there does not mean pain is coming next. If she acts nasty because she's afraid you'll hurt her, make sure you are out of range so she can't do anything to you and then ignore the behavior, but keep brushing. Once she settles, THEN stop and put her away. Do this for however long it takes her to realize you aren't going to hurt her, and then gradually increase the pressure by girthing her loosely, and stopping with that for a while. Once she doesn't pay you much mind fasten her up loosely, then groom for a few minutes, then tighten the girth up a hole or two. It may take a while to overcome it, but if you move slowly and give her time, she should get over it. Of course that will mean you can't just toss a saddle on and go riding for a while. Maybe bareback or something of that sort for a while if you must. But it will be worth it for her to not anticipate pain with tacking. And the important thing is, once you do get her straightened out, use a girth that fits and take it up slowly, not all at once.

Whiffer 12-28-2010 08:30 PM

You did two things incorrect here, as pointed out above. ^^

You shouldn't have used a girth that was too small for her. It's better to not ride her for a day while you purchase a new one than it is to cause her pain using one that is too small. I hope you've learned this.

As for the biting, you moved away from her, therefore rewarding her and letting her get away with it. This is unacceptable and if you let this go on much longer it could only get worse.

Good luck.

Gidget 12-28-2010 08:34 PM

I did not move away from her. I scolded her.

In the past she was very round..she needed to lose weight. While getting her into shape I went through many saddles and I would tighten it really tight as she is mutton withered and having her being obese it made it worse...I don't know if I am making sense. I have switched to english and the saddle I have fits her well and the one I had in the past fit her well but I needed 17.5 seat instead of a 17 so I sold it...she has gained weight again(weight she needed as she lost quite abit) and now the girth is really small on her and me being stupid would...make it fit...now I have caused this issue

Whiffer 12-28-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by apachiedragon (Post 867090)
I'd start out by just getting her into the cross ties and grooming her, especially around the girth area. Let her know that just because she is there does not mean pain is coming next. If she acts nasty because she's afraid you'll hurt her, make sure you are out of range so she can't do anything to you and then ignore the behavior, but keep brushing. Once she settles, THEN stop and put her away. Do this for however long it takes her to realize you aren't going to hurt her, and then gradually increase the pressure by girthing her loosely, and stopping with that for a while. Once she doesn't pay you much mind fasten her up loosely, then groom for a few minutes, then tighten the girth up a hole or two. It may take a while to overcome it, but if you move slowly and give her time, she should get over it. Of course that will mean you can't just toss a saddle on and go riding for a while. Maybe bareback or something of that sort for a while if you must. But it will be worth it for her to not anticipate pain with tacking. And the important thing is, once you do get her straightened out, use a girth that fits and take it up slowly, not all at once.

^^ Ignoring her will only make the biting worse. Do NOT ignore a horse who bites.

Say "no" in a loud and firm voice. Jerk his lead line (Not extremely hard, but hard enough to get his attention and let him know he's done something wrong.)

As someone else said, brush and pet her a lot in the girth area, this will let her know that you are not always out to hurt her.

I was watching a Dennis Reis episode, and he was talking about a stallion who had a huge biting problem. He took him into a round pen and did whatever he could to the stallion that would set him off. Every time the stallion tried to bite at him, he would make him work.

Back him up, make him do side-steps, send him cantering in a circle. Make him work hard, and breath heavy. When you think he's had enough bring him back to you, pet him and start over.

It takes time, but a biting horse should not be ignored.

Edit: I apologize for using "he." Oops. (:

Gidget 12-28-2010 08:39 PM

when I say I was afraid to go towards her face it was when I was cross tying her and she reached over when I was near her neck and acted like she was going to bite me as she did chomp at the air...I did continue to work with her and I girthed her slowly with my friends girth that fit her. I have been riding her bareback for a month and just got a new saddle and didn't realize the girth was too small untill today.When I went to girth her I did do it slowly..I would only do it every five minutes or longer while I was doing other things.

Gidget 12-28-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Whiffer (Post 867102)
Edit: I apologize for using "he." Oops. (:


it's okay :P

apachiedragon 12-28-2010 08:48 PM

I didn't mean to ignore the biting part. that was bad wording on my part. I meant if she was dancing around and acting out because she was afraid of you messing around her girth, that going after her would likely make her worse, not better. In addition, you have left off doing what she didn't like, which is an encouragement in itself to act up. I don't allow mine to bite, they get a swift jerk and a sharp word, or get the bump into my elbow treatment, but sometimes you have to work through the root of the problem, and if she is acting out to get you away from the girth area, then that is exactly where you should stay until she realizes it won't work.

Gidget 12-28-2010 08:50 PM

okay,and what do I do if she does bite me? I will work with her but if she bites me then I am in trouble. I usually yell at her and raise my hand and she stops or I slap her on the neck or butt and she stops. She is a lot bigger to me and can do more damage. Should I carry a crop?


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