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Northern 01-07-2011 03:58 PM

You can do a lot for hurting horses!
 
A great New Year's resolution is to take a bit of time to sign those online petitions & letters to legislators, make calls, & donate as you can to stop BLM roundups & BLM disruption of herds by giving birth control to Mustang mares (Ginger Kathrens & Cloud sites), wild horse racing, etc.:-P

wyominggrandma 01-07-2011 09:17 PM

Have you ever seen wild horses lying dead due to starvation and thirst? BLM has to round up horses to stop them from dying on the range. Giving birth control to mares would be a great thing, they can control the size of the herds and still let some run.
I love horses and anything to do with them, but there has to be control of them. Just like reopening the slaughter plants, horses could be used for good instead of letting them die from neglect. Out here in Wyoming and it is happening in Utah and Idaho also, instead of having a place to send horses, whether sick, dying, untrainable, etc they are turning them loose on the desert and open ranges figuring the horses can fend for themselves.
I won't sign petitions to stop roundups, sterilize horses or stop slaughter houses from reopening. We need them as long as people will keep breeding unwanted horses just to experience the "fun of having a foal" from non breeding quality mares and non breeding quality stallions.

JustDressageIt 01-07-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma (Post 880859)
Have you ever seen wild horses lying dead due to starvation and thirst? BLM has to round up horses to stop them from dying on the range. Giving birth control to mares would be a great thing, they can control the size of the herds and still let some run.
I won't sign petitions to stop roundups, sterilize horses or stop slaughter houses from reopening. We need them as long as people will keep breeding unwanted horses just to experience the "fun of having a foal" from non breeding quality mares and non breeding quality stallions.

Quoted for truth.
There is a reason behind the roundups and birth control, and it's in the horses' interest.

Northern 01-07-2011 10:15 PM

I do hope that WG & JDI expect folks to do their own research & arrive at their own conclusions!

JustDressageIt 01-08-2011 12:49 AM

Would you prefer that the BLM's overpopulate and suffer a long, agonizing death due to starvation due to lack of grazing area?
There's an overpopulation of horses in the world, and nobody's doing a thing about the cause - irresponsible breeding. It's all about control after the fact.
You're allowed your opinion, Northern, and I am allowed mine. I sure do hope that folks research the facts from reputable sources, not emotionally-driven drivel, and arrive at their own conclusions.

HowClever 01-08-2011 12:59 AM

I am not American, so I can't comment on the issue with your mustangs.

But.

Our brumby problem is at the point where, while some are rounded up via helicopter and shipped to select trainers (there is one about 5 minutes away from me), others are simply shot.

Of course as a horse lover I would much prefer that they could all be brought in, trained and re-homed. That just is not an option. Too many people are full up on rescues already. And the average joe horse owner does not have the knowledge or skills to continue the work with a newly captive horse.

I can not see how round ups are a problem, when over here we are at the point where they have to be culled.

myhorsesonador 01-08-2011 01:00 AM

I agree with WG and JDI.

wyominggrandma 01-08-2011 01:16 AM

Yep, I expect people to do their own research and have their own opinion, just as I expect people not to sign a petition or many petitions for stopping horse sterilization, stopping roundups and not reopening slaughter plants until they do research. Real research, not just the garbage that PETA and all the other humaniacs put out to "help animals" and show the cruelty of roundups , etc and not show what happens when people turn their horses loose to fend for themselves, or let them starve to death because they are sick and no longer want to feed them, or give them away because they are dangerous animals and someone gets hurt because there is nothing else to do with them anymore. No emotions, just the honest truth.

Northern 01-08-2011 01:50 AM

I'll add that Ginger Kathren's sites are a good place to start; she's the one who's filmed the Mustang Cloud from the time he was born (9 years ago) in the Pryor Mountains, & shared his life with the world. She learned a lot about the ways of wild horses, & so it's worthwhile to hear her opinions on BLM actions.

franknbeans 01-08-2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern (Post 880936)
I do hope that WG & JDI expect folks to do their own research & arrive at their own conclusions!

What you seem to mean is that you hope that people will do the research and arrive at YOUR conclusions, giving me the impression, from this statement, that anyones other than yours is flawed.

Agree with WG and JDI. Perhaps your research needs to be more diverse.:wink:


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