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RiddlesDarkAngel5 01-10-2011 09:38 PM

Choosing a joint supplement - opinions appreciated
 
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Hello everyone,

I've been helping to rehabilitate a severe neglect case at the barn. He's doing much better (going out on trail rides now!!!!) and his weight and coat are getting better and better. I'm wanting to put him on a joint supplement as he is in his early 20's and didn't have the best of care in his earlier years. He's already on a hoof supplement to help regrow and strengthen the hoof (his feet were horrible when he came in), but since he enjoys being ridden so much I want to extend his rideable years as much as possible. He moves a bit stiffly sometimes so I figured a joint supplement might help him out. I've looked online and found a couple reasonably priced supplements that I like, but I don't have a lot of experiences with joint supplements specifically so I figured I'd see what reviews you folks had.
Here are my picks:

Cosequin Equine Powder
Regenex joint

If you have any other picks, please feel free to add them

Here's a photo of him about 2 months ago: Trooper

luvs2ride1979 01-10-2011 10:18 PM

I have had great luck with Corta-Flex and Acti-Flex 4000. With the acti-flex, I added extra MSM since it only has 2,000 mgs per-dose and most horses do best on 10,000 mgs.

Look for a supplement that's NASC certified. One with MSM and/or Yucca is good for anti-inflamitory. Glucosamine is good for lubricating joints. You want at least 5,000 mgs per-dose.

Corta-Flex uses natural substances that work like Glucosamine and MSM. It has worked really well for my guys. You need to double it for 5-7 days, then go to the maintanence dose. It's one of the more affordable joint supplements that has a really good following. ValleyVet.com has a deal where you get a free qt when you buy a gallon.
Corta-Flx Solution Chemphar (Equine - Horse Supplements - Joint - Liquid Paste)

Acti-Flex:
Acti-Flex 4000 in Joint Supplements at Schneider Saddlery

RiddlesDarkAngel5 01-10-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979 (Post 884846)
I have had great luck with Corta-Flex and Acti-Flex 4000. With the acti-flex, I added extra MSM since it only has 2,000 mgs per-dose and most horses do best on 10,000 mgs.

Look for a supplement that's NASC certified. One with MSM and/or Yucca is good for anti-inflamitory. Glucosamine is good for lubricating joints. You want at least 5,000 mgs per-dose.

Corta-Flex uses natural substances that work like Glucosamine and MSM. It has worked really well for my guys. You need to double it for 5-7 days, then go to the maintanence dose. It's one of the more affordable joint supplements that has a really good following. ValleyVet.com has a deal where you get a free qt when you buy a gallon.
Corta-Flx Solution Chemphar (Equine - Horse Supplements - Joint - Liquid Paste)

Acti-Flex:
Acti-Flex 4000 in Joint Supplements at Schneider Saddlery


thanks! this stuff looks really good

RATHER BE RIDING 01-10-2011 11:19 PM

My best friend has a 18 year old Arabian that was stiff in the hind end. She had a hard time getting up after rolling and if she laid down for any length of time, she could barely walk for the first few strides when she got up. She put her on Corta-Flx pellets and they made a huge difference. The evidence for us that it works is when she has been laying down for a nap, she can now get up without any stiffness or lameness.

kim_angel 01-11-2011 05:52 AM

I use Cetyl M and love it.

franknbeans 01-11-2011 07:09 AM

I have had great success with Cortaflex liquid. However-I would say that no supplement is any good if the horse won't eat it. I would suggest that you call Smartpak. They are great, and will send you numerous samples so that you know that it is palletable to your horse.

walkinthewalk 01-11-2011 08:33 AM

Don't choose something because it is the "flavor of the month" on any forum.

Choose a product that is pharmaceutical grade without fillers in it.

It will cost more but you will feed less and get better results:-)

There are many of those types offerings in today's market, just have to do your reasearch.

franknbeans 01-11-2011 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by walkinthewalk (Post 885210)
Don't choose something because it is the "flavor of the month" on any forum.

Choose a product that is pharmaceutical grade without fillers in it.

It will cost more but you will feed less and get better results:-)

There are many of those types offerings in today's market, just have to do your reasearch.


That is great, but different things in combination work differently on different horses, and again-none of them are any good if they won't eat it. Also-there ARE many, it can get very confusing. It can be helpful to know what is working for other people. There is nothing wrong with asking. It is also a form of research, and not a "flavor of the month" selection. Your statement insinuates that the rest of us are idiots.:?

MIEventer 01-11-2011 09:07 AM

I too agree with contacting SmartPak. Their Consultants are very knowledgeable and can help you get started in the right direction. They aren't pushy, they listen very well, they answer questions asked, and do not make you feel like you have to purchase any product.

Now the issue I have, is that there have been many studdies done on Joint Suppliments oral and IM's, and what concerns me is that the Oral Suppliments fall under the Equine Nutrition category, which means, rules and regulations are not that strict. Soooo, what they say is, due to this, companies can say that "This" and "This" ingredient is in the suppliment, when in reality there isn't. Or they can say that "This much" and "This much" of a dose are in the product, when, the doses are not even close. Etc, etc, etc.

And, also, studdies have been done on how effective the product is after the horse eats it up. The process it has to go through, in order for it to get to the joint...is long and strenuous - and by the time it gets to where it needs to be, only a small amount in compareson to the dose given, only gets there.

So, make sure you do your research and as stated already, make sure the product has the NASC stamp of approval on the product. And understand that oral suppliments are wishy washy. They may work, they may not. You may be spending good money, you may be flushing it down the toilet.

Where, IM's like Adequan, Legend, Polyglycam, Glucosamine - fall under the Equine Medical category, where rules and regulations are very strict and closely followed. So, the product is, what the company states the product is. The ingredients are, exactly what is stated. What the company states the product does, the product does.

I say, get the fellow on an IM. I have my 21 year old TB on Adequan, and the difference was night and day after he got his first dose. His reaction to the first dose, made our decision to not do the loading dose. He gets his IM once a month, and has been doing very well on it. He has arthritus in his hind right hock.

The choice is yours, if you want to go oral, make sure you do your research. I hope all goes well for you and your boy! What you are doing for him, is a great thing!

Alwaysbehind 01-11-2011 09:55 AM

Another vote for Smartpak.


I give my old man Smartflex Repair.


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