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Fosters Mom 01-23-2011 12:08 PM

Senior needs weight
 
What do you feed a senior that doesn't eat the long stems of his hay?
He has free choice to hay but only eats the little tiny pieces that shake out. He also gets TC senior twice a day. Any thoughts?

qtrhrsecrazy 01-23-2011 12:12 PM

Are his teeth ok?

Fosters Mom 01-23-2011 01:01 PM

senior needs weight
 
The dentist checks him every 6 months. He recently lost two molars.

qtrhrsecrazy 01-23-2011 06:45 PM

That may be just enough to where he can't grind up the rough stuff. That happened to my old guy. I fed him chopped hay and he'd eat around any stemmys. I fed him senior feed to make sure he got all he needed. Hope it all works out for you
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OneFastHorse 01-24-2011 12:17 AM

soaked beet pulp and/or soaked alfalfa cubes or pellets.

You can feed them with or in place of hay. In this case, I would still offer the hay to him, but add the soaked BP/alfalfa to his sr feed.

How much sr feed is he getting (lbs) a day?

Is his weight ok?

Fosters Mom 01-24-2011 09:28 PM

senior needs weight
 
I was feeding him 5lbs per feeding twice a day of TC senior for 2 years. The 5lbs is a 3 quart scoop. I have recently decreased TC senior to 2 quarts twice a day due to him having excess gas. He is under weight and I've been addressing his weight now for two years. I have tried beep pulp, which gives him diarrhea. Weight gain, oils, rice bran. He is now on a mixture of oats, TC senior, hay stretcher. I have just tonight purchased Alfa Supreme.

MIEventer 01-25-2011 10:15 AM

I would contact SmartPak and talk to them about the gas and the diarreah -

My 21 year old TB Gelding, ended up having a nasty colic episode, last January, and due to that, my Vet had a long discussion with me about aiding his digestive tract and the ulcers he ended up obtaining during.

So, my vet got onto the topic of a hard keeper *He is* and the digestive tract system and spoke about how older horses need help in keeping their system moving and going because old age weakens and yadda yadda yadda - and that I need to look into a digestive aid, to help his older system process and utalize his feed properly. S

o I contact SmartPak and spoke with them, and they greatly suggested SmartDigest Ultra to me, and Tract Guard and SmartGut Pellets.

I showed the ingredients and products to my vet, and she approved them all - so I chose to put him on SmartDigest Ultra, and SmartGut Pellets. He's doing very well now *knocks on wood*. He easily gains weight now, after years of being such a hard keeper, and his system is running properly *knocks on wood again*

I would first, look into a digestive aid suppliment like SmartDigest Ultra to help your fellow out, to ultalize and process his feed properly, so then what he is eating, will beable to work with him and for him.

My fellow is eating 5lbs of Tripple Crown Senior, twice a day. So he's getting 10lbs and is doing well on it. But it is high in fibre and not so high in fat, so I added a Fat Suppliment - like Ultimate Finish 100, or Fat-Cat.

I hope that helps!

qtrhrsecrazy 01-25-2011 10:26 AM

Probiotics are wonderful
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RebeccaMI 01-25-2011 01:07 PM

My boy will be 21 in June. He's an Appendix QH so his TB half gives him the tendency to be ribby. Rather than senior feed, I've got him on a ration balancer made by Buckeye called Gro N' Win. It's designed to be fed along with forage (either hay or pasture). Because it's a ration balancer you feed less of it per day than you would senior feed, which may be nice for your senior horse if s/he has trouble chewing. (I've not needed to do this, but I'm sure you could make a mash of it with warm water.) In addition to the ration balancer and hay/pasture, in the winter he also gets a pound or two of whole oats daily for weight management. He's pretty much dialed in on this combination and stays a good weight.

I've not used it, but some people use a product called Cocasoya to add weight. I've also read that some people feed black oil sunflower seeds (BOSS) but that can get expensive, and it might be harder for your horse to eat those with fewer teeth.

OneFastHorse 01-28-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RebeccaMI (Post 903155)
My boy will be 21 in June. He's an Appendix QH so his TB half gives him the tendency to be ribby. Rather than senior feed, I've got him on a ration balancer made by Buckeye called Gro N' Win. It's designed to be fed along with forage (either hay or pasture). Because it's a ration balancer you feed less of it per day than you would senior feed, which may be nice for your senior horse if s/he has trouble chewing. (I've not needed to do this, but I'm sure you could make a mash of it with warm water.) In addition to the ration balancer and hay/pasture, in the winter he also gets a pound or two of whole oats daily for weight management. He's pretty much dialed in on this combination and stays a good weight.

I've not used it, but some people use a product called Cocasoya to add weight. I've also read that some people feed black oil sunflower seeds (BOSS) but that can get expensive, and it might be harder for your horse to eat those with fewer teeth.

I would not recommend BOSS for an older horse b/c it is very high in omega 6, which is an inflammatory. Plus, you can only feed 2 lbs max.

Cocasoya has one of the better Omega balances for an oil. I have used it with good results.

I would go with a RB and alfalfa pellets and/or beet pulp, all soaked if he has trouble chewing. He can be fed up to 5+lbs of BP/AP along with his RB if needed.


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