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Beau Baby 01-23-2011 11:32 PM

Hackamores? Should I use one?
 
I was wondering about using a hackamore. What is the main reason people use them instead of bits? I am using a french-link snaffle on the mare I'm training and don't plan on fully switching over to a hackamore as I am an eventer and can't use a hackamore for dressage. I kinda wanted to try using one on the mare I'm training if she ends up becoming mine. Is it worth it to use a hackamore for trail rides and jumping or is it best to just stick with the snaffle bit and not even bother with the hackamore. I tried one on my Fjord and he hated it. But I know some horses who really really respond to it.

kitten_Val 01-24-2011 08:01 AM

I started both my mares in sidepull. However they seem to like the snaffle much more. I think it all depends on if horse is OK with the pressure on nose. Both mine hate it.

y wolf 01-25-2011 07:32 PM

What type spanish bosal or mechanical. I start every thing in a bosal. Makes light horses imo. I wouldn't use a mechanical on a horse I hated.
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Beau Baby 01-25-2011 07:49 PM

I was planning on getting a mechanical. I don't know how to fit or use a bosal and I've been told you shouldn't use one without an experianced person to help you as using a bosal can ruin a horse.

dee 01-25-2011 08:33 PM

Daughter uses a mechanical on Dancer. I think it's partly because she (the daughter) is a little afraid to try to bit a horse. She always has to call me to help her - then gets mad at me when I just pop the bit in and that's that!

Back to the original point - Dancer does very well in a mechanical hack - but daughter has very light hands. She has too - she gets too rough with Dancer's nose and Dancer puts her on the ground the hard way... :-)

y wolf 01-25-2011 08:58 PM

I think you can ruin a horse with anything if not used properly. Yes a bosal takes practise to use properly. It is used one rain at a time like a snafel should be and A horse can run threw it he not used right. A hack is a good training tool but they are not more humane then a bit. My problem with the mechanical isthat if not adjusted wright they are crule. Put one around your knee and yank. They tend to have long shakes that bounce as the horse moves and pinch on every down stroke effectively dulling the horse and if adjusted tight enough not to could cause serious damage. But with every thing their only as bad as the person using them. If your heavy handed don't use a hack.
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xXEventerXx 01-25-2011 09:02 PM

Well you prob know i use a hackamore, and i love it. Some horses work better in hackamore. If you want to use a hackamore in jumping for a bit more control and still use a snaffle in dressage that be a good idea. I use a hackamore because my horse has a sensitive mouth and he listens alot better in one, i barely use any contact now he respects when i pull back. Before when i rode in a bit i would have to pull and pull to stop him.. i felt bad..



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Beau Baby 01-25-2011 10:05 PM

Thanks guys. Regena is really really responsive with the bit. She goes in to a nice frame with a steady contact and she doesn't need a lot of pulling to stop her just a slight pressure a release and she stops. She's a very responsive horse in general. I think maybe I'll try one once I get her back in constant work.

Eventer what kind would you recommend. I see you use 2 differant kinds.

xXEventerXx 01-25-2011 10:16 PM

well depends on the horse, i tried two to see what one he would work better in, the english hackamore(2nd pic) he didnt respond the best he listened.the other hackamore(more like a german hackamore) works better on him, i have alot more control and he goes into frame alot easier with that one. Once he is in frame i relieve the pressure and he stays there. I like it alot and when it comes to jumping before i used a loose ring double jointed snaffle and i couldnt stop after the jumps. now i can stop him instantly with barely any pressure im so happy it him and the hackamore

Beau Baby 01-25-2011 10:20 PM

Cool. So I guess you just got to try a few and see which works best for you and your horse. Hackamores are allowed to be used in jumper shows yes? Do you know if they're allowed in the cross-country phase of eventing?


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