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SissyGoBob 01-25-2011 11:22 PM

teaching a horse to do the basics of reining
 
Ok so this is what I'm thinking to teach a horse to:

Spin: bump your horse right behind the front girth with your outside leg and (for beginners) lay your outside rein on their neck.

Slide stop: not sure, help?

rollbacks: (for beginners) back them up lay the outside rein on their neck turn your hips to the inside and bump with your outside foot right behind the front girth.

lead changes: I have several different methods from moving their hip up under them with your outside foot too tipping their nose the outside (a little), put your new inside foot forward, and bump with your outside foot further back towards the back girth

Speed changes: put your hands forward and sit up a little to make them speed up, sit more in your saddle (and for a beginner bump your reins to back them down)


Tell me if I have ANY of this is wrong. I have never watched a reining instructor or anything this is all what I have learned from 1, experience and 2, I teach these things to my barrel horses.

Thank you guys. (oh and if you have and good videos that would help, feel free)

franknbeans 01-25-2011 11:44 PM

Well, I sure am finding it more difficult than I thought.....and have the help of a trainer, BUT, there are also some decent videos on youtube that I find helpful as a reinforcement for me. If you search for "reining training" you will find some by L Trocha, and some by Les Vogt, among others. They are pretty good, I think. Helped me for sure, but then I am still somewhat stuck in English mode.:lol:

SissyGoBob 01-26-2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by franknbeans (Post 904075)
Well, I sure am finding it more difficult than I thought.....and have the help of a trainer, BUT, there are also some decent videos on youtube that I find helpful as a reinforcement for me. If you search for "reining training" you will find some by L Trocha, and some by Les Vogt, among others. They are pretty good, I think. Helped me for sure, but then I am still somewhat stuck in English mode.:lol:


Lol, I just watched a video on youtube about training your horse to spin and I thought it was very helpful. I am continueing to look for more at the moment.

franknbeans 01-26-2011 06:52 AM

IMO, more info is always good. However, it seems that every reining trainer I have met does things a bit differently. Makes it more confusing.

nrhareiner 01-26-2011 11:10 AM

First STOP.

If you do not know what you are doing you are going to teach your horse a bad habit. It is very easy to teach them incorrectly and very very difficult to correct.

First think you MUST do is get complete control over your horse. If you can not move every inch of your horse with a light touch of your leg and reins you are not ready to move on to teaching spins and rollbacks.

Make sure you can side pass do shoulder in and out 1/2 pass and so on. Once you can do this then you are getting to the point where you can start working on turns and rollbacks. If you do not have someone to help who knows what they are doing you or you really know what the maneuver feels like you are going to have a big problem getting to the point of doing it correctly.

It is not just as simple a simple cue.

SissyGoBob 01-26-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by franknbeans (Post 904271)
IMO, more info is always good. However, it seems that every reining trainer I have met does things a bit differently. Makes it more confusing.


I did notice that, which kinda scares me a little. The reason I am looking into this stuff is because I train horses for a living (thats how I pay for me and my horses) and just the other day I was riding this horse that was with a reining trainer for 60 days and the owner says she wants me to continue her training. As you can see i have a pretty good Idea of how to do it, but I have no clue how that other guy trained her. Because like you said they all do it a little differently. So I don't know weather I should start from scratch (she doesn't know much anyways) or should I try to figure out what he has already taught her (which would be a nightmare because she gets nervous and hot sometimes)

SissyGoBob 01-26-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nrhareiner (Post 904499)
First STOP.

If you do not know what you are doing you are going to teach your horse a bad habit. It is very easy to teach them incorrectly and very very difficult to correct.

First think you MUST do is get complete control over your horse. If you can not move every inch of your horse with a light touch of your leg and reins you are not ready to move on to teaching spins and rollbacks.

Make sure you can side pass do shoulder in and out 1/2 pass and so on. Once you can do this then you are getting to the point where you can start working on turns and rollbacks. If you do not have someone to help who knows what they are doing you or you really know what the maneuver feels like you are going to have a big problem getting to the point of doing it correctly.

It is not just as simple a simple cue.


I can move every inch of this horse by just a twitch of my leg. I need to start on the turns now. And I do kknow what the correct way is because I rode a finished reining horse, but I have never trained one.

franknbeans 01-26-2011 11:32 AM

\Nrha-I can totally appreciatewhere you are coming from Correct is everything and it is very much a process.

Here is the issue-at least the one I am having. I have a horse that I have had 6 mo reining training put on by a trainer in NY, where I live in the summer. I now have taken my horse back to Va with me, so that I can ride him, after all, that is why I have him. Now, I have the challenge of trying to keep all he has been taught....and there are SO many rules! I would LOVe to have access to a reining trainer in VA, but the only one is at least 50 miles away, and, what I am finding is that even tho' I have the resources and desire, because I do not have a bred to death high dollar horse, most true NRHA guys won't even look at him. I know he will never be a derby horse-I just want to have fun with him. He is athletic, and enjoys it. We both do. But we have had to go to other places for some of the knowledge we need. That is just a reality for some of us.
Many of us love reining, but we don't all have to do it at the same level, and some of us have no desire to compete. Fun means everything, and yes, we DO try to do it right......

Streakin 01-26-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SissyGoBob (Post 904512)
I can move every inch of this horse by just a twitch of my leg. I need to start on the turns now. And I do kknow what the correct way is because I rode a finished reining horse, but I have never trained one.

Thats like saying I know how to train a jumper or know how to ride one just because I swung a leg over them. ;)

If you know, then why are you asking for help?

True knowledge/understanding of how to train a horse comes from experience, not watching videos.

IMO, take nrhareiners advice. Can you post a video?

nrhareiner 01-26-2011 11:50 AM

Riding a finished horse if you do it enough will give you an idea of how a maneuver should feel when done correctly.

However that is not going to give you what you need to train one.

In the turns do you know...
What do you do if the horse sucks back? If it jumps out? If the horse bends too much or not enough? If it drops the shoulder? Do you know what each of these things feels like?

In the rollbacks do you know...

What do you do if the horse is not finishing the turn? What if this or that happens. So many things that just about EVERY horse will do at one time or anouther that you MUST know what it feels like and then how to fix it.

If you are not looking to compete on this horse then do not worry about the maneuvers just put a really good handle on it. This is where reining training can really shine for the average horse and owner to enjoy.


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