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Trilogy 01-29-2011 08:58 PM

What would you read from these x-rays?
 
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So following from my last post, I am taking my boy to the closest equine specialist on Tuesday. I dug these x-rays out from 1 year ago to show to the specialist and I have had a few friends comment on them and how they disagreed with my vet orginal diagnosis (which I will share later!)

I know I will find out for sure on Tuesday, but wondered what you guys would see from them :wink:

Add: Oh, he was taken originally for a slight lameness that didn't go away. He had just been taken barefoot, so I had assumed a stone bruise due to transitioning.

luvs2ride1979 01-30-2011 09:01 PM

That last one almost looks like side bone on the left. I also don't like the "cloudiness" at the back of P3 & P2.

loosie 01-30-2011 11:21 PM

Hi,

Looks like P3 is low in the capsule/ thin sole, it's top appears well below coronet, assuming the white line on the first is marking the hoof wall. In the solar shots it appears there may be slight bone loss around the perimeter of P3. The 'cloudiness' around the nav bone area could be ossification beginning. Good that this boy is out of shoes, but I would definitely be protecting his feet with boots or such until they become healthy.

barefoothooves 02-02-2011 11:24 AM

Hard to read sole depth on the lateral view films. The view is oblique and makes judging actual sole depth impossible. In a good lateral film, you wouldn't be able to see any of the solar view (bottom), it would be directly from the side. But, it does look like the p3 is lower than ideal, but coming fresh out of shoes in the image, that may have changed by now if he's still barefoot. Also, I see some slight roation, but again, hard to tell without a good lateral view.

The other 2, the anterior-posterior, it looks like he toes out slighty? But the joint spaces are even, implying that is normal for him. But he lateral cartilage sits a little off center, so his feet aren't symetrical.

I also see in the last image, a spot floating off the lateral cartilage to the right (just to the left of the cartilage wing on the right side of the right hoof), which may be a flaw in the film, or could be something. If you are re-doing this films, that would be worth looking for to be sure what that is. Probably is nothing, but...

CanyonCowboy 02-02-2011 11:36 AM

Not that I know anything but a question for others. In the first picture, is the roughened surface on the dorsal surface of P2 normal? Or is this arthritis starting?

barefoothooves 02-02-2011 03:39 PM

Do you mean wher it looks like a double image peak of bone? Or at the posterior aspect where there is a little tag sticking up? That one is beyond my scope as a trimmer-all I am usually looking for is the coffin bone to see pedal osteitis, rotation, joint space, or obvious arthritic changes and nav. lesions. I still defer to a vet for a throrough reading, especially as you go up the leg. ;)

CanyonCowboy 02-02-2011 04:05 PM

It may just be the limb moved slightly during the image. In the lateral view (first photo), the dorsal surface of P2 appears to have two bony protuberances, one near the distal articular surface, and another at the narrowest point of P2.

bntnail 02-02-2011 10:14 PM

Horse has sidebone. Not possible to say if active or not based on these rads. Medial/lateral balance is crucial as well as eased breakover. Horse may still be intermittently lame,especially on uneven ground.

Pedal osteitis and articular ringbone, as well as sole depth, cannot be determined by these rads. Nonarticular ringbone is present however.

Determining joint spacing on a rad over the net is a joke. If your not there when the rad is taken, then you have no idea how the shot was set up or how the horse was standing at the time it was taken.:wink:

The "floating" spot could easily be crap stuck in the whiteline/bar area that wasn't properly cleaned out.


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