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Clair 01-30-2011 10:33 PM

Help! I've fallen in love with reining! (Please give input/advice)
 
I've become obsessed with reining!
I'd love your input.

Mainly…
In your opinion, is Kelty suitable for reining? As far as looks/build, or anything else you come up with?

What can I do now?-
What are some fundamental/basic exercises that would be building blocks for reining?
(for example: I've been practicing good solid immediate stops at the walk/trot, sometimes followed by backing up)

General tips, tricks, advice, or stories about reining?


LARGE AMOUNT OF BACKGROUND INFO (Please read before asking me questions, this may answer them)

How this fascination came about:
I'll confess: ever since I bought Kelty I've always dreamed about "dancing" with him in an arena, to a song. Spinning, effortless lead changes, a phenomenal lope, all with the most imperceptible cues.. THAT is just amazing.
Then I started working with Kelty with a lady who's very knowledgeable and has accomplished a lot in the horse world, participated in a LOT of sports: And she asked the pivotal question:
"What do you want to do with your boy?"
Well suddenly… I don't know. And she suggests he and I would like reining.
I'm like "I could do THAT?... Oh my gosh- I COULD do that." It really clicked with me! Now I'm obsessed. [I think I've read EVERY thread in this forum]

-So then I read the 2007 NRHA patterns and rules I found online and got a little… terrified. But wow. I wanna get into this. I'm certainly not expecting this to be a quick process- I have years with Kelty ahead of me. And I don't expect to win money or championships or anything. I just want to do it because I think I'd love it. I think Kelty would love it.-

A little bit about Kelty*
*Mitey Sharp Man
Age: 6 years as of Jan. 1 (technically April)
Breed: American Quarter Horse
Size: 14.2 hands, 1,000 pounds soaking wet.
Color: Chestnut (but he has a black+bleached yellow mane&tail)
Bloodlines/lineage: Registered with AQHA.
Sire: Mitey Jody, Dam: Rackum on Man
Daddy was a racehorse, look at him here: http://www.speedhorsemagazine.com/srfiles/statpdf/jklmn/mitey_jody.pdf
Mom seems rather anonymous- but another google search reveals she bred some good barrel horses.
History: Somewhat unknown. He was 'abused' before my first barn owner bought him. I don't know what that entails. Then he was purchased by a woman who wanted him for barrels when he was 4. She returned him saying he "didn't know how to run barrels" and he picked up a strong terror of cantering, crops, hands and humans in general between that and 5 (FIVE!) tween –under 15- girls who were offered a "cut" of his sale if they would "train" him. They were not friends, rode in different disciplines and had different ideas about training, tack, cues, discipline, etc.
I bought him 2 days before he was scheduled for auction. He was ugly, dirty, hand shy and fearful… But somehow we clicked. I've spent the last year painstakingly unteaching, reteaching, crying on my instructor, and amazed now… at how far we've come. J I've had him just over a year.
Temperament: I basically think (know :p) he "poops butterflies and farts rainbows" as they say. Heart, heart, heart. He WANTS to do stuff right. He gets agitated when he isn't praised or can't "figure it out." He's very serious and easily bored. He's bold, but he still exhibits random fears. (Plastic and camels are whatever.. but crops and whips not held in mom's hand? They eat horses.)

Pictures: I have some decent conformation ones on my camera but I left it in my friend's car! If they are necessary, I'll post them later.

Closest thing I've got to confo pic
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...elty/confo.jpg

Face:
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...kelty/face.jpg

Showing off:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...y/IMGP3555.jpg


Me:
I've only been riding seriously for 4 years. (We didn't have the money before, so I just got to take a lesson or trail ride once or twice a year… Since I was four J)
I consider Kelty my life partner. I'll keep him until the bitter end. He's more important me than a particular sport.
I work with two trainers- a woman who has become my close friend, and can actually teach and train equally well. She's been my teacher for all 4 years. She has an English style history- but has done a lot of drill team competition stuff. My other trainer is a non-stereotypical Parelli instructor. No marketing, no steps, just practical application. She has actually done reining, WP, dressage, and hunter/jumper with great success.
She'll be preparing me for reining J

So don't worry- I'm supervised and safe.

I'm just hungry for more knowledge about the great sport of reining!

Thank you for taking the time to read this!

JerBear 01-31-2011 05:16 AM

As far as I can tell I dont see anything wrong with the way he looks. Hes really cute too. :) My opinion is any horse can be and do anything with the right training. So if someone tells you no dont be discouraged! I mean sure some might spin faster than others... slide better than others... but it can always be improved but theres always gonna be the slight variation between horses. You know? My old instructor from school has an andulsian she is teaching to rein. Go figure an andulsian! They are fairly new to reining I believe. Good luck!

franknbeans 01-31-2011 05:40 AM

Go for it and have fun. To me, that is the most important part. Just make you and your horse the best you can be. I also got a passion for reining recently and both my horse and I are having fun. We got the help of a trainer who does reining, much like you, and are just learning together. If nothing else, it puts a good "handle" on them. Shoot-mine is not even able to be registered QH-he is a QH/TWH mutt PMU rescue, but he loves it. He is also bored easily, so I just keep switching it up as we learn. We also have one instructor who has a base in Parelli, and actually, I have found some of that helpful.
I also know I am never going to be bound for a derby.....shoot, if I ever even get his competition license I will be happy! I am not sure I even want to put plates on him. I like to trail ride also, it is good for his mind, and plates would be too slippery.
I was actually at an NRHA show last summer and an Andalusian was the star of the show! He was big, clunky and slow, but he was certainly the fan favorite and tried really hard!

Clair 01-31-2011 08:25 PM

Thank you! Could you give me an example of what a regular day of reining work is like for you all?

I would like to compete eventually. In just for fun shows and maybe later other less serious shows...

Mostly it feels good to have a goal for me and Kelty! I'm just so excited to get started.
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equiniphile 01-31-2011 08:59 PM

Go for it, I LOVE reining, it's so much fun. My uncle and aunt have a reining ranch in Colorado with 20+ arabs/half arabs, most of them are professional reining horses, and he gets horses in from all over to be trained. My avatar is me on his amazing reining stallion Ramblin Mr. V. One of their mares Estrella was ranked 8th in the country in the arab show ring last year.

Your boy looks to have decent conformation, nothing really sticks out to me as bad.

I visit my aunt and uncle's ranch sometimes, and it's so much fun. I rode all of their horses, with the exception of the 7 retired mares. The horses, on their off season, got worked about 1-2 times a week, since there were no upcoming shows. Usually consisted of a lot of jogging and easy loping, extending the gates, making sure the stops were firm and exactly when asked for. Since I was still learning reining, I spent a lot of the time practicing my spins and sliding stops. Circles were a big part of what they did, when I rode Mr. V, he was spectacualr, he hunted down the circle like I've never felt a horse do before. Spectacular. They're all controlled through your hips, so you energize or lock down your pelvis to speed up or slow down the gaits. It was a ton of fun :D

Be sure to update us when you get started!

Clair 01-31-2011 09:21 PM

I'm so jealous! Can I come?! Haha. That sounds amazing. It's intimidating to me to think about those perfect 20m or whatever circles! I'm happy if mine are round and even.

I can't imagine the stage fright I would have doing my first pattern.

Luckily kelty is amazingly seat sensitive. Reins are merely reinforcers if a cue is if ignored or he's not paying attention.

I sure will! Thanks for the advice!
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franknbeans 02-01-2011 07:52 AM

Lots and lots and lots..did I say lots?....and lots of circles. lol.

I have trouble getting my circles round, so one of my trainers suggested to ride a stop sign shape and just round it slightly. That has helped.

Make sure your horse is totally "adjustable" at the lope....meaing speeds up and slows down immediately when asked, practice your changes, not always on the center of the ring.

THere seems to be lots of "rules" when you are trying to teach (and learn) reining with your horse. Most of them come down to the basic priciple that you have to keep them from anticipating. They have to always be listening to you and not guessing what you want next.

The fact that your horse is really sensitive will help for sure-

Let us know how it goes~!

nrhareiner 02-01-2011 04:33 PM

First any horse can rein in the basic sense of the word. Will your horse be a competive reining with in NRHA. Maybe maybe not. He is not bred to rein and he is not what I would call a classic built reiner.

Any horse can and does benefit from reining training. There is a level with NRHA for just about every horse and rider.

What I would suggest is see if you can find a reinnig trainer in your area or a reiner who can give you some help. I have help several local people who wanted to get more into reining by answering they questions watching them ride and run patterns and give some advice. There are a lot of people who rein who will help you out.

Reading the rule book is a good way to get an idea of what each maneuver is and how it should be done. Also read the judges section. This will give you a good idea of what the judges are looking for. Also if you can get your hands on the Judges clinic videos that NRHA does that too is a very good way to see what the judges are looking for and how each maneuver is judged.

Clair 02-01-2011 05:10 PM

nrhareiner-
I was waiting for you to reply! I never understood your username until I started researching reining. *lightbulb*

About the levels- I saw a lot of advertising for a "green level" reining competition in Horse&Rider Magazine. At 17-18, would I stick out too horribly?

Are there other places to rein that aren't NRHA? (Just curious)
I live near San Antonio, Texas and I know there are a lot of events at the Rose Palace. Does reining happen at big horse shows like that?

I will definitely keep my eye out for more help. I got an old friend's card (When I was 8, I worked at his barn in exchange for lessons) but I believe he's extremely expensive...
Would it be worth it for like one super-professional lesson a month?

It's funny you say that! I have another window open right now and am printing out the rulebook and patterns.

nrhareiner 02-01-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Clair (Post 912778)
nrhareiner-
I was waiting for you to reply! I never understood your username until I started researching reining. *lightbulb*

About the levels- I saw a lot of advertising for a "green level" reining competition in Horse&Rider Magazine. At 17-18, would I stick out too horribly?

Green reiner is the grass roots affiliate level class. You do not have to be a member of NRHA just the affiliate to show in that class. You do not need to own the horse you show either. There is also youth classes too they are divided by age. 14-18 is the sr class.

Are there other places to rein that aren't NRHA? (Just curious)
I live near San Antonio, Texas and I know there are a lot of events at the Rose Palace. Does reining happen at big horse shows like that?

AQHA shows normally have a non pro reining class and a Open reining class. Sometimes you can find a reining class at open shows but they are normally not the best place to really show but can be fun. NRHA is the best place to show b/c of the help you can get along with how the score the run. You can learn a lot just from the score card.

I will definitely keep my eye out for more help. I got an old friend's card (When I was 8, I worked at his barn in exchange for lessons) but I believe he's extremely expensive...
Would it be worth it for like one super-professional lesson a month?

Yes that would be better then trying to take 2-3 lessons from a lesser trainer. In reining you really do get what you pay for.

It's funny you say that! I have another window open right now and am printing out the rulebook and patterns.

I have several rule books I keep them from year to year. I have one from about 2006 that is about wore out as the patterns do not change and that is the one I carry to the shows to use for the patterns so I know what I am doing for each run. One of these days I will get a set of laminated patterns.


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