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Magic 04-10-2008 01:49 AM

anky rolkur
 
omg, I thought becasue Anky invented it, that when she does it, It's not that bad, but this is bad: http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com...nkyrollkur.jpg

poor horse!

koomy56 04-10-2008 09:42 AM

Pretty sad, for sure. :( I can't even imagine. I, personally, do not respect her as a rider for this very reason. Also, I came acrossed a video of her warming up and she was so aweful to her horse and then she prances into the ring like she's really perfect. I dont get it.

kitten_Val 04-10-2008 10:06 AM

Magic, sorry for my uneducated question (I'm not english and especially dressage person in any ways), but can you explain what is wrong?

Magic 04-10-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kitten_Val
Magic, sorry for my uneducated question (I'm not english and especially dressage person in any ways), but can you explain what is wrong?

No problem!

Ok, so "rolking" is a method of dressage riding that she invented. If you look at the horse's head it is being hyper-flexed (It really messes up the horses back, spine, and neck).

Dumas'_Grrrl 04-10-2008 03:09 PM

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: That so wrong wrong wrong!!!

Abby 04-10-2008 03:31 PM

Horse being warmed up in a Rolkur if no one as ever seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFS...F2B2E0&index=2

JustDressageIt 04-10-2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic
Quote:

Originally Posted by kitten_Val
Magic, sorry for my uneducated question (I'm not english and especially dressage person in any ways), but can you explain what is wrong?

No problem!

Ok, so "rolking" is a method of dressage riding that she invented. If you look at the horse's head it is being hyper-flexed (It really messes up the horses back, spine, and neck).

I really hate defending this EVERY time it comes up.... but the Rollkur is supposed to be brief (10 seconds, max) hyperflexion followed IMMEDIATELY by letting the horse stretch its neck down to the ground.
Unfortunately the top riders have made it cruel by making their horses maintain the Rollkur for 10+ minutes without a break.
It's not meant to be used this way, and I think that if it was used correctly it could be very effective - I would use it, and probably will when Maia has more training on her.

koomy56 04-10-2008 11:05 PM

JDI: What would you say this method is used for, and why would you be using it? We all know what it does, but what's the goal?

JustDressageIt 04-10-2008 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by koomy56
JDI: What would you say this method is used for, and why would you be using it? We all know what it does, but what's the goal?

It creates a deeper flexion, and encourages the horse to really round their back and work through themselves - again, this is very brief, but think of holding a fairly uncomfortable position (think the pilates V shape) for a short period of time - it does have its benefits.
It also teaches the horse to yield its jaw.
The rollkur is also known as "Deep" or "Deep and round". With the horse being hyperflexed like this, it really makes horse horse's back work, and does build topline.

kitten_Val 04-11-2008 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic
Ok, so "rolking" is a method of dressage riding that she invented. If you look at the horse's head it is being hyper-flexed (It really messes up the horses back, spine, and neck).

Oh, I see... Somehow I was thinking you are talking about bit she's using :). Yes I agree horse head position looks really ugly and unnatural.


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