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So I spent this whole week looking up the horsenality stuff. And now I am not baffled or against it. Pat himself says that some horses are all over the map in different categories and in different environments. I've managed to put 75% of horse in their accurate category and thought back to the training. I think this is meant mainly for people who do not know how to read a horse well or are not experienced. So kudos for Parelli for coming up with a chart that may help some people(less experienced) with their horses. I did read some good training tips for introverts. I tend to dislike training introverts but some of the training tips for them make sense.
I think we on this forum forget that some people aren't as horse smart or experienced as we are. I know some trainers that know how to ride but have no clue about horse personalities. I am amazed by the number of people who've ridden for years that don't do natural horsemanship yet can't even lunge their horse or roundpen it properly. So I think Parelli(and other popular trainers)are helpful with groundwork and horse sense. Because it's not all about riding. It's about horsemanship on the ground too.
it simply doesnt replace the ability to read a horse. it MAY help enhance your learning of how to read a horse, but "horsenality" isn't the be all end all of communicating with horses, or reading horses. simply a way for, as you said, the inexperienced to experience things from a new perspective.
ive noticed that there are a lot of people who are good riders but have no clue how to actually train a horse. i think the horsenalities are fine really, i dont see why people have such a big problem with them.
I think the biggest problem with Horsenality is that people read each of the four quadrants and immediately start pointing out how their horse doesn't fit into any one category. I did it as well when I was super anti-Parelli. People LOOK for reasons for it to be inaccurate.
However, no horse is meant to fit into a section like a peg in a custom hole. If you read every section, and pull out parts of your horses personality and then compare it to the training problems/successes you may have based on that personality, all it really does is help round out your understanding of equine behavior.
Just by READING the chart, and understanding which personality traits correlate to which training problems/successes is a HUGE piece of education that I don't think anybody could go wrong with understanding. Nobody is saying it has to replace anything, it's simply a guided tool to help people new to equine psychology and behavior understand a little better why or why not their horse may do a certain thing, and how they can better help their horse learn.
I am an experienced rider/trainer who's been in the saddle for every one of my 25 years. And I STILL make the mistake of expecting the same results out of my horses sometimes. I've spent my entire life working with Arabians, and purchasing a Paint was a HUGE shock to my system - none of my methods worked, and we were getting nowhere. I had to drastically alter everything I knew about training to apply it to this horse who is so opposite my Arab it isn't even funny.
I did it without the help of Parelli, but how many of us are stuck in a rut because we're not thinking far enough outside the box? Reading the Horsenality quadrant afterwards had me laughing at how many things were dead on based on my two mares and all my difficulties and success with them.
You'll never become a superb horse trainer unless you absorb ALL the education and information you can. You may never use it, but it never hurts to know it.
MacabreMikolaj^^ Exactly. I think most people have an issue with the man himself so they think up ways to convince themselves every method of his is pointless & dumb.
It's not & alot makes so much sense & though for some that do see it as common sense, that's not how it is with most people that, like others have said, have ridden horses forever but dont actually have a clue about their personalities & training.
Horses are like people & every other animal in the sense that they all have different personalities & have the ability to change their mood.
The Horseanality chart is just a way to show people the 4 major ways that a horse can react & put it into terms that the average Joe can understand. He also shows different ways to deal with a horse in a right-brain introvert or extrovert moment to help get them back on track & thinking instead of just reacting.
The truth is that many people who train horses actually already did things different depending on what the horsenality was in a given situation. I know I've been doing it for years but I didn't really know that I was doing it. I just called it feel or thought it was some part of that. So when I saw the horsenality I thought OK lets see if this has any truth to it and I thought it is a good place to start. I don't think that there's anything so crazy harmful or jump on the bible train but hey it's just another way to communicate. I know that my husband raised cattle and he didn't know anything about horses and so I had to use words to explain. OK so it's not easy teaching a spouse but what I discovered is that my words couldn't really explain what I did. So I do find it useful but I can also see how it can be misused.
I agree with the last few posts in that there are many people who ride but don't train and don't know. Further that for some people just dislike PP and want to find a way to bash him regardless.
BTW Pat Parelli has a chart for Casper and Casper is not in "only one" category. He is all over the map. Pat himself says that some of his horses go from one horsenality to another on depending on location, etc. And he did say that horses could be all over the horsenality chart.
i also want to add that while some people do have good feel for animals, as many of us do. a lot of people have trouble understanding them and why they do what they do.
Pat Parelli got dumped from his horse last night at the Road to the Horse competition. He wasn't hurt.
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