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ilovepavani 03-04-2011 07:19 PM

Critique Sunny Jumping Please :)
Hey everyone! Could you critique my horse, Sunny, jumping? Just critique him though, since I'm not the one riding him. My trainers riding him. Just wanted to get all of you opinions on him cantering towards the jump, jumping, and in the second video at the end you can see him trotting a bit. If you could critique all of that, that would be amazing! And if you see things that we should work on with him, definitely let me know :)

Little background info on him. He a six year old (just turned six two days ago!) Hanoverian Quarter Horse cross. He's pretty much solid at the walk, trot, canter, and we started jumping him over low cross rails two months ago, but this is his first time jumping in since then, as well as his first time cantering a jump ever.

Anyways, thank you!!!

Bandera 03-04-2011 07:45 PM

He looks like he has power and a good bascule. I would like to see him tuck more up front and snap more behind though. Also i would like to see him load more behind instead of flinging himself over. Other than that is was nice!

When did u buy him? I feel like i was looking at a Sunny who was a palimeno and hano cross... lol

ilovepavani 03-04-2011 08:29 PM

I got him in September of 2010! We're in the bay area of California. He was for sale for a short time in the east bay and I bought him when he was up near Sacramento with his owner. Let me know if he's the same horse! That'd be so cool.

Oh and I know, he doesn't tuck yet. He's pretty much just learning. This is probably his maybe fifth or sixth time jumping under saddle, so he has a bunch to learn.

Uma 03-04-2011 10:14 PM

I think he has a very nice, even approach and depart. I like that his front end is pretty even.

I would actually like to see him fit one more stride in before the jump. He is taking off a little early.

Other than that he is very cute.

Bandera 03-04-2011 10:19 PM

Yup Im a bit north of San Francisco! I never did go see him but i was always kind of interested. I thought he would be to young for me but i ended up buying a horse the same age :) haha.

Yah for the first time he jumps pretty well. He shows some good promise! Even though he isnt tucking up for the first few jumps it might not mean something but then it might. Most horses when they first start jumping tend to over tuck and really try and clear the jump but he tends to jump it kinda flat and long. Might mean nothing but i when i look at young horses i tend to like ones that over jump and tuck a lot. Just personal preference really lol.

ilovepavani 03-04-2011 10:45 PM

Thanks for the critiques!

Yeah, he does tend to have a flatter jump. That's just how he is, I think. But, we free-jumped/lunged him over a jump about 3 feet, and he tucked more than he did in these videos, so maybe its just the size of the jump?

Chiilaa 03-05-2011 10:18 AM

I am going to go out on a limb here. I think the flat jump isn't caused by the size at all. When you free jump him, does he do it with a standing martingale on? To complete the bascule, a horse NEEDS to have free use of his head, ESPECIALLY while he is learning to jump. I am willing to say that if you take the martingale off, he will jump much better. If he was my horse, I would be getting it off him straight away, because it is so easy to ruin a green horse, and I would want to make sure that he starts the right way.

ilovepavani 03-05-2011 11:31 AM

It's actually not a standing martingale. My trainer is totally against the whole martingale usage. We're using a bungee on him, to help him lower his head. It doesn't restrict his use of his head at all. If he pulls his head up, the bungee will put pressure on his poll and make him lower his head. However, it doesn't pull his head down, if that makes sense. But I'll try jumping him without it and see how he does! Thank you!

MudPaint 03-05-2011 02:19 PM

He does have a rather flat jump, but he's also standing off a good bit from the fence. Standing off, IMO, is better than a natural chipper. Once he's developed more, I would think your trainer would start asking for a more rounded energetic canter. Right now, it's just forward. That will help him get the ideal distance and have a rounder jump. Also grids will tighten up his form, teach him to round his back and use himself more effectively.

I am personally against any equipment such as martingales, especially for young horses. You're horse truly isn't rounded and on the bit if you must use a tool that restricts their head. I suspect you won't need it once he's carrying himself properly and is on the bit, but that is flat work.

For not having a lot of experience jumping, he seems very willing and happy about the work. He will probably be easy to polish into a show horse.

gypsygirl 03-05-2011 02:22 PM

hes cute and shows promise ! i also do not like the use of the bungee. is someone clucking in the video ? it seems like the horse is a little behind the riders leg.

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