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thealabamaredhead 03-17-2011 11:51 AM

Arabian foal color - Is grey possible?
My BF sent Kira's dam Gleeful Pico off to be bred for the last time, and i was wondering what the foal is likely to look like. At Gleeful's second home she produced all chestnut foals, and at the home before ours she was bred to a black stallion(he has black,bay,chestnut foals) a few times and had all bay foals(some dark, some light bay). Here is the stud she is being bred to Ali Dhalan most of his foals are grey and one is bay. I'm not good at understanding the color genetics so could someone tell me if Gleeful can produce grey?

kywalkinghorse2010 03-17-2011 11:58 AM

It is possible for Gleeful to have a grey foal, but only because the stallion is a grey. One parent has to be grey in order for the foal to be a grey. But, the foal could still be born a chestnut like Gleeful and then turn grey later in life. BTW, beautiful stallion choice and also beautiful mare.

Speed Racer 03-17-2011 12:01 PM

Grey is a dominant gene, so if the sire's grey, the foal will have a good chance at being grey.

My grey Arab gelding's dam was chestnut, and my bay Arab gelding's mother was grey. The grey Arab's sire was grey, and the bay Arab's sire was bay.

Poseidon 03-17-2011 01:11 PM

It wouldn't really be Gleeful producing a gray foal, as she is not gray. It would be stallion bringing gray to the genetic table.

There's a good chance it will be, but gray foals are born a normal colour, then gray out, so you might not be able to tell right away.

NdAppy 03-17-2011 05:38 PM

Yes it is possible for her to have a grey by that stallion. About a 50% chance as it looks like he is not homozygous for grey. Any other colors (or base color) all depends on what is under the stallion's grey.

SorrelHorse 03-17-2011 06:33 PM

There's a good chance it will be. But remember it may be a little while before you can tell. You'll notice around the eyes when they start to grey out first.

Eliz 03-17-2011 10:27 PM

A friend of mine bred her grey mare (who had only produced greys) to a grey stallion (Showkayce, I'm not sure if any of his offspring aren't grey..) and whoop! I liver chestnut baby. He's almost a year and still hasn't shown any signs of greying.

Off topic, but just goes to show you just never know ;)

Hidalgo13 03-17-2011 10:29 PM

I love your arab, what kind is she exactly (like egyptian? polish? etc...)

thealabamaredhead 03-17-2011 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by Hidalgo13 (Post 966695)
I love your arab, what kind is she exactly (like egyptian? polish? etc...)

Bloodline Percentages for Gleeful Pico AHR #469297
Crabbet/Blunt = 55.9814
GSB (incl. Crabbet) = 64.9902
Davenports = 6.73828
Polish = 18.5547
Egyptian = 30.5908
Russian = 6.25
WK Kellogg = 25.6348
CMK = 87.8906
Abbas Pasha Source = 26.3275
WR Brown/Maynesboro Stud = 38.6719
Abbas Pasha/Ali Pasha Sherif Source = 28.3173
Babson Egyptian = 1.5625
Old Babolna (pre-WW II) = 2.92358
Old German (Weil) = 1.26953
North American Desert Source = 22.9004
Early American Foundation (vol V) = 71.875
American Foundation (thru vol X) = 87.5
El Emir = .537108
Mesaoud = 12.7075
Ghazala = 4.44336
Raffles = 1.5625
Skowronek = 6.83594

MagicDestiny 03-18-2011 02:01 AM

What a pretty girl! She's got such a kind eye! Question for you, how did you find exact percentages for bloodlines like that? I have a filly that I want to see what lines she has but I'm at a loss as to how to find that out!

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