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MyLittlePonies 03-17-2011 11:58 PM

Color possibilities of a future colt.
 
We just bred our mare to a Radical Rodder son and kind of wonder what color possibilities there are for this foal (if she took).
Sire would be ME TOO RADICAL. he gives off mainly what the mares color is, but its not always. He's a dark bay. i can post pictures if needed of him. the mare is a sorrel, but her dam was a gray, which a lot of her pedigree is gray till her grandsire, a red dun, started a sorrel line. she does have mixtures of white specks, not enough to be a roan for say cause its really mixed in that you have to stand right beside her to see.
Any idea as to whether it could be a girl or boy? Her sires dam gave off majority studs with one filly. ive heard the sire chooses the sex of the foal. anyone believe that? I'm starting to.

Ladybug2001 03-18-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MyLittlePonies (Post 966785)
We just bred our mare to a Radical Rodder son and kind of wonder what color possibilities there are for this foal (if she took).
Sire would be ME TOO RADICAL. he gives off mainly what the mares color is, but its not always. He's a dark bay. i can post pictures if needed of him. the mare is a sorrel, but her dam was a gray, which a lot of her pedigree is gray till her grandsire, a red dun, started a sorrel line. she does have mixtures of white specks, not enough to be a roan for say cause its really mixed in that you have to stand right beside her to see.
Any idea as to whether it could be a girl or boy? Her sires dam gave off majority studs with one filly. ive heard the sire chooses the sex of the foal. anyone believe that? I'm starting to.

My guess is it will more then likely be sorrel or bay. I bred my mare to a black stallion years back and it produced a twin of her right down to the blaze. When I looked into the sire's pedigree I seen he had sorrel down the line and the black and begun to fade out down the line. Same situation with you. Someone correct me if I am wrong but is sorrel dominate over certian colors?

The male does indeed choose the sex of the foal and many other traits just like in humans. The female will always give an X but the male gives either an X or a Y. An X and an X produces a female while an XY combination produces a male.

sheezgottarythm 03-18-2011 12:10 AM

No you are right Ladybug :) The Red Gene is pretty dominant in the Horse World. More then likely the foal will come out Bay or sorrel. Then it would be black after that but highly unlikely. If the Stallion does pass the dominant Agouti gene though, you could see a greater possibility of a Bay but any other color is highly unlikely, though not impossible.

Predicting if it is a Colt or Filly is pretty well impossible to do though you could expect a higher chance of the ones the stallion produces more often.

MyLittlePonies 03-18-2011 12:11 AM

I'm really hoping for a bay, but hey, not everything happens in anyones favor. i kind of figured it would be the sire's decision. most likely will have a colt then

MyLittlePonies 03-18-2011 12:13 AM

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Predicting if it is a Colt or Filly is pretty well impossible to do though you could expect a higher chance of the ones the stallion produces more often.[/quote]

It is true about that. he sire majority colts.:-)

Ladybug2001 03-18-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MyLittlePonies (Post 966802)
[quote:]
Predicting if it is a Colt or Filly is pretty well impossible to do though you could expect a higher chance of the ones the stallion produces more often.

It is true about that. he sire majority colts.:-)[/QUOTE]

Then you more then likely will get a colt, either bay or sorrel. I'm going to lean more towards sorrel as like Sheez said, the red gene is more dominant in most times though throwing a bay isn't unlikely.

NdAppy 03-18-2011 08:47 AM

Red is not a dominate gene. It is recessive. In order for the red base to show, there has to be a lack of black, which is the dominant gene.

BTW Me too Radical is brown and not bay. :wink:

Without knowing the agouti of the mare, and what the agouti status or if he is heterozygous or homozygous for black... You could end up with pretty much anything. Black, bay, brown, or chestnut.

MyLittlePonies 03-18-2011 08:59 AM

Well, his registered papers say he's bay and well, we probably need to go into it with AQHA about changing that if possible. We've only had him for a year. He's been around the US a little bit.
I'd have to have him tested or just wait for the result. But I'm kind of wondering about the gray on her dam's side whether that could give a factor. we think it could be a sorrel or bay actually. Guess I'd have to find out.:)

NdAppy 03-18-2011 09:08 AM

The foal will not be grey unless the mare is grey. Grey does not "skip" generations. Grey is dominate over every color/pattern there is in horses.

MyLittlePonies 03-18-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NdAppy (Post 966987)
The foal will not be grey unless the mare is grey. Grey does not "skip" generations. Grey is dominate over every color/pattern there is in horses.

ok. i see. :wink: i do know that but being said that, i'm kind of curious as to how she came out to be a sorrel. her dam has a strong grey line. Her sire's is sorrel and some bay. confusing to me but there is some dominant factors somewhere. I kind of wonder because her cuts and such turn grey when the fur comes back. meaning fur:-|. I think it'll be interesting to see. lol


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