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crimson88 03-23-2011 11:17 AM

Such thing as a sooty bay?
 
Is there such thing as a sooty bay? If so, do you think Crimson is one? The first picture doesn't show his coloring real well because of the lighting but it was the only one I had. In the summer he turns bright metallic golden with black patchs starting at his neck and goes along his back to his tail. In the winter he turns a deep red and the black patches turn a charcoal grey color and extend further down his sides. His dad is a regular buckskin and his moms black. His full sister was a sooty buckskin.

Summer Pic:
http://a3.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/i...2e9adb23/l.jpg

Winter Pic:

http://a2.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/i...d6391898/l.jpg

Fluffy Pony 03-23-2011 01:05 PM

I think they call a sooty bay... mahogany bays.

Poseidon 03-23-2011 01:12 PM

He's a sooty buckskin too. He's too light and golden to be a bay. I know a sooty buckskin QH that is as dark as he is too.

Bays that are dark like that are just referred to as dark bays or black bays.

smrobs 03-23-2011 02:11 PM

I agree with P. He looks like a sooty buckskin as well. There is too much yellow in his face for him to be a bay.

However, yes, sooty bays do exist, and they are commonly called Mahogany bays, or dark bay in the western world. Here is a decent example of one.
http://horsebrotherhood.com/images/dark%20bay.png

Fluffy Pony 03-23-2011 04:17 PM

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/43...425x425Q85.jpg

Chiilaa 03-23-2011 07:01 PM

Yup sooty can affect bay, as already noted. Also agreeing with P, I would say your guy is a cream dilute. I would lean towards a smokey brown though instead of buckskin, but it is only just becoming usual to differentiate between the two so P could have already deduced that too :)

NdAppy 03-23-2011 07:23 PM

Pretty much ditto what Chiilla said. i was going to say smokey brown over buckskin as well. :-)

crimson88 03-23-2011 07:33 PM

Oh interesting! And all this time I thought he was a bay, haha :)

crimson88 03-23-2011 07:36 PM

Here is a pic of his full sister, who is a sooty buckskin, you can see she's a little differently colored.

http://www.oakgroveminis.com/horses/...a/chelsea2.jpg

Chiilaa 03-24-2011 04:55 AM

I would call her a smokey brown too to be honest.


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