Saddle fit critique! Urgent!
I usually don't go with "urgent" and alike, but I have just 2 days to decide before I have to ship it back, so I'd love to hear the opinions. I'd also be happy to hear what would be a reasonable price for it. :wink: It's Whippy saddle (made in England). Sorry for rather dark pics, something is going on with my camera lately... :-( And yes, I can stick 4 fingers on front (but I have very thin fingers, so its the same for my dressage and A/P saddles as well).
hard to tell for sure - looks pretty good but it may pinch at the shoulders and/or sit narrow to the spine i can't tell. does it feel snug when you put your hand under the saddle along the shoulder? if you slide your hand from gullet along down the shoulder and you feel any snug spots that would be your answer.
a whippy, huh? we have an old one here. they (the few i've seen anyway) tend to be narrow but are def well made saddles and hard to find!
oh another thought - because it is an older saddle and sits uneven behind i'd def have it reflocked. that may also be able to give your horse some more room in the shoulder (if it pinches or is snug at all - hard to tell from the photos).
Decent saddle, however even my untrained eye can tell it doesn't fit your horse fairly well at all.
My first impression is that it doesn't follow the back very well. I suspect it might be doing the opposite of bridgein (what is that called?), you know where the middle of the saddle has more contact than the front and rear, so it has too much rocker. You, being there, would better be able to tell if this is so.
It has the older English style of padding for the rear of the tree; it curls upward quite abit, so it comes away from the back quite a bit. On the one hand, some curling away from the back is ok because when rider is in the saddel, it will sink down and the horse's hip and back movement will move into that open space some as you go along. The bad thing is that it reduces significantly the amount of weight bearing surface of the tree. This shape does not work well for any horse with a fairly flat or upwardly rounded back, like a warmblood.
The shoulder looks like that angle is quite good, though certainly no excess room. It sits on your horse at the correct angle , with pommel lower than cantle.
But the channel is very narrow. Does not look like it offers your horse's spine much clearance.
I think I just offered you a mixed bag, but if a bunch of other people say the same thing then you can add up all the pros and cons and decide which way the scale goes.
I don't think you will get a better fit than this one. These saddles often have flexible points that move as the shoulder moves back and forth.
Thanks a bunch, folks! The front seems to be very good to me, and it sits on back all way from pommel to cantle (unlike Crosby I tried last week: I could stick a finger between saddle and back in middle). It's a wide tree saddle (while my A/P and Dressage are medium, but they are more designed towards wider horses). Also she doesn't seem to stand straight (even though I did try hard :D ). Yes, my saddle fitter -hopefully- will be able to come out too, so I'll get her opinion (and will ask for reflocking if she decides it's a decent fit).
The front looks good and the front-to-back balance looks decent, but the back pannels are a bit curvy for the horse's back. You could get away using it as-is with a good saddle pad, like a Skito or other thick-ish open cell foam pad. Otherwise, you would need to get it reflocked and have the panels gusseted, which would likely run $150-250.
Eeewww, I do not like the gullet channels width....or lack there of. And those panels, as Luvs2ride said, are far too "round"
Is it me, or does that saddle appear "twisted"?
Are you suspecting a broken tree?
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