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jramos14 03-24-2011 12:37 AM

staillion with bad manners
I just bought a bring new stallion. He is about 6 years old. The original owner told me he was broken and ready to ride. I am planning on gelding him soon but want him to breed with my mares first. For now I would just like him to get used to me and let me get near him and maybe even do some ground work. He has charged me and a few other people helping me with him. Any help plz!!

Cherie 03-24-2011 09:35 AM

Well, if you have to ask how to manner a stallion, you do not have any business with one. Geld him immediately before you or someone else gets hurt or killed by this dink.

If your mares are worthy of breeding and raising 'good' marketable and useful foals, send them out and breed them to the best quality 'proven' stallion you can afford -- not some dink that is only a poor dispositioned and poorly trained gelding prospect.

I assume that he is an unregistered dink as you said he is 'about' 6 years old. Are your mares high quality registered mares? Are you aware of how many 'unwanted' horses there are out there that not only have no market value but are starving because people who thought they wanted them, can no longer afford them and cannot even give them away. I get calls every week from people wanting to 'give' me a horse.

We do not need more 'fugly' horses. Breed the best horses you can afford or buy someone else's dinks and give them a home.

I hate to come off too harsh, but I see the results of this kind of mis-guided thinking every day. Twice a month a truckload of them head to the kill plant in Mexico from our local sale barn. Last Monday, more than half of the 100+ horses that went through the ring headed south on a semi truck and quite a few of them had registered parents. Please don't add to the glut of crap out there that just becomes unwanted horses.

Katze 03-24-2011 09:47 AM

Cherie your post made me giggle on one hand and nod sagely on the other. I agree wholeheartedly with what you have said, geld the "dink" lol.

There are too many unwanted horses out there, that are from registered parents or are registered themselves that are going to the slaughterhouse. Wake up smell the coffee, if you can't handle him either geld him or give him back to the previous owner.

SEAmom 03-24-2011 09:55 AM

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I'm inclined to agree with the previous posters. Too often people buy stallions and are unprepared to handle them. It's much different than an ill-mannered gelding or a moody mare. Geld him hedda pronto and only breed your mares to a quality, well-behaved stallion. That temperament is genetic and if you can't handle him, you won't be able to handle the offspring. Sort if I seem harsh or mean. I've just seen this way too many times and know how these stories end.
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MHFoundation Quarters 03-24-2011 10:03 AM

I completely agree with Cherie. Even if he is registered, stunning and your mares are top notch broodmares, I still say GELD. Point is, if he is virtually unhandleable now, how do you think he will act after being allowed to cover mares? This would also make me question if he is in fact broke if you can't even touch him. If he was stallion material, he would have been finished and well mannered by his age and well into a career by now. Even if he was well mannered, an un-proven 6 year old is past the point of promotable and would be a "backyard breeder" at best.

That you are asking for that type of help on a web forum tells me you have no business owning a stallion. Save yourself money, heartache, injuries & vet bills, geld him asap.
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jramos14 03-24-2011 04:59 PM

Thank you all for the post. This is exactly but I was expecting to hear but just had that little bit inside me that hoped I could breed him! He is beautiful. Once again thank you all for the help.
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MHFoundation Quarters 03-24-2011 05:34 PM

I will be the first to say, kudos to you for handling strong criticisms and opinions with maturity. I've seen a lot of threads on here go very awry because of right-fighting and people wanting to hear how great things are instead of honest opinions.

Back to the subject....He won't be any less beautiful once you geld him :) I'd imagine in fact you will find him much more appealing after the testosterone dissipates! Be warned however that at his age, gelding him will not make the attitude and stallion behavior disappear over night and possibly never. He will still need a lot of work to get him to respect you as the alpha. If you are itching to have a foal, seek out a stallion that will compliment your mares, strengthen their weaknesses and with a great disposition. I totally understand the little bit inside that hoped to breed as an owner of 3 stallions myself, but all are as calm as geldings and 2 have had/still have show careers and are proven producers. Even with that being said, breeding has slowed and profits are still there but not like they were before the horse economy slump. I am currently giving heavy consideration to gelding my youngest (he is my avatar pic) as he was injured and his training and show career has been pushed back. Will I cry like a baby and have daydreams of what his babies would have been like, I am certain, but a few years down the road when my daughter is big enough to step out of small fry classes she will be handed a stunning all-around gelding and that will be the reward instead of a foal crop on the ground.

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