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Chele11 03-29-2011 12:12 AM

Sitting VS Posting Trot
I know the difference, just wanting to know why there is a difference? Are they used in different showing?

Kayty 03-29-2011 12:46 AM

I don't *totally* understand what you're asking but I'll have a go at answering anyway.

Obviously posting/rising trot, the rider is out of the saddle for one beat of the trot, and in the saddle for the other. In sitting trot, the rider remains in contact with the saddle for both beats of the trot and the moment of suspension.

Rising trot is mainly employed in young and green horses, and in warming up prior to commencing more difficult work on a more educated horse. Riding trot, when the rider is comfortable and capable to execute it - not bouncing on the horse's back, thumping down hard, being left behind the movement, moving hands with the upper body etc., will encourage the horse to loosen and lift it's back, as it does not have to carry the riders full weight directly on it's spine. Particularly when many riders find the sitting trot difficult, and tend to brace against the motion - blocking the horse's back.
In a young or green horse, the back is not yet strong enough to carry the weight of the rider in sitting trot for an extended period of time, and often will hollow their back away from the weight of the rider. So rising trot allows to rider to be lighter and less interfering over the back.

Sitting trot, we do in dressage because this is where we can gain a real connection with the horse. In sitting trot we can use our seat aids to their full capacity, we can feel every movement the horse makes, can feel tension in the back and can follow the horse's movement, giving us enhanced ability to control each footfall.

Dressage tests reflect the introduction of sitting trot, from rising trot on young horses. At training/preliminary level, the rider is allowed to rise all of the trot work. As you progress through the levels (I am not sure on the US tests but here it is Novice level) the rider must sit trot the working trot, and is able to rise the lengthens. Only at Elementary, must the rider begin to sit all trot work. At this point in the horse's training, it should have build sufficient muscle and strength over the back to carry the rider, and should also have the capability to lengthen the stride and frame while lifting the back with the rider in sitting trot.
Also when we reach this level, we begin to introduce some lateral movements. Riding laterals in rising trot is quite more difficult than in sitting trot, and the rider has less control over the horse's 'core' and footfalls. Hence, we sit trot and encourage the horse to step it's inside hind leg, under its, and our, centre of gravity.

I hope that's given you a bit of help with your question!! It may not make total sense - I'm about to head off to ride so typed it quickly... will go over my response properly when I get home.

Chele11 03-29-2011 01:01 AM

I knew the difference between the two. Just didn't understand why one would be employed over the other.


Luvs2jump 03-29-2011 01:27 AM

This is a good article on the sitting and the posting trot and gives a bit of history on where the posting trot came from.
Riding the Trot

Kayty 03-29-2011 01:34 AM

Article above has nothing to do with sitting trot. Only the difference that she believes in, between rising and posting the trot. I will say I learnt something there, I assumed that posting was just what you US folk call rising ;) And I guess I am right in that sense, well, from what I've seen here us Aussies call it rising, and those in the US call it posting. Haven't really noted to 'in between' countries.

Chele11 03-29-2011 02:37 AM

Oddly enough I didn't ask for a tutorial or a lesson on each. I just wanted to know WHY each were done. Kayty, you answered it in your first post, I believe, even if you didn't understand the question.

As for the article, Luvs2Jump, I liked her style of writing and the information she gave. It also lend me to understand why Chili doesn't do so well in the arena even tho she is broke to ride. She has not been trained to lunge or work in a circular motion - big or small - and therefore, has a difficult time keeping rhythm at anything other than a walk in the arena. Thank you for the info.

I think we can close this discussion .... and I can feel much more comfortable knowing I am quite capable of sitting as opposed to posting (or rising) even if I can't quite remember how to do the latter! :-)

purplefrog55 03-31-2011 06:52 PM

Post trotting is used because it's a lot better on the horses back. Unless your riding dressage (when the sit trot is used) it's best to always post. Unless you know how to sit the trot, it probably won't be that bad though. I always post though, because I try my best to be as nice as I can on the horses back. :D

kitten_Val 04-01-2011 09:42 AM

I just want to add on top of what Kayty said (great post BTW) is that you do want to do posting trot on horse getting back in training (aka building muscles). It's not a good idea to sit a trot (real one) on out of shape horse.

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