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RodeoLoco 03-31-2011 03:08 PM

Spurs
 
I want to know your outlook on spurs. I personally love them. I have been in many incidents where they have saved me from something awful. But at a local show the other day (yesterday, actually) some one walked up to me and gave me a whole rant about how spurs are abusive. I ride with double sided spurs. When its trail riding, I ride in rounded, dull spurs. When it comes to gaming, I ride in pointed sharp spurs. But no, this was too much for this woman. My horse has no flank scars from them, other than a kick mark from another horse that got the scab ripped off a bit, but I took care of that. So, I want to know, what do people have against spurs. I am a total western person. I have only been in an English saddle once, and only for a trat around the yard, when I was looking to buy another horse. So I have never ridden without spurs.

Zeke 03-31-2011 03:28 PM

I think after a rider has developed a strong seat and is taught how to use spurs properly they can be a great tool. They are not for every rider on every horse in every discipline however. I usually only wear them (a small blunt rowel type) when I ride reining and that's only because they help in making my cues subtle and that's what many of the horse's I've encountered were taught with.

I don't like seeing them in gaming just because it seems too easy for the horse to be over jabbed with them, I'm also personally not comfortable with pointed spurs. I find it hard to believe a horse is lazy enough to need something sharp to get them moving.

bubba13 03-31-2011 03:29 PM

What are double-sided spurs?

I find "sharp" spurs (rockgrinders or whatever) to be unnecessarily harsh. If you don't use them for general riding, why would you use them for gaming? To make the horsey go faster? Spurs should not be used for speed. Big barrel racer kicks

http://img1.eyefetch.com/Portfolio%5CTeriA%5C92853.jpg

should not be used for speed. It's ridiculous--all it does is hurt/wind your horse, slowing him down and making him resentful.

I ride every horse with my gorgeous-favorite-oh-so-awesome custom spurs:

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...tuff/spurs.jpg

Blunted rowels that still have a good feel to them. I rarely use the spurs, though, even though I'm always wearing them. They are not use for speed (leaning forward, smooching, and doing a thigh/heel bump accomplishes that), but they are used for refinement of cues. Roll in to move over, bend, loosen up, etc. That is the intended purpose of spurs, not "going fast" or "kicking."

RodeoLoco 03-31-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 981556)
I think after a rider has developed a strong seat and is taught how to use spurs properly they can be a great tool. They are not for every rider on every horse in every discipline however. I usually only wear them (a small blunt rowel type) when I ride reining and that's only because they help in making my cues subtle and that's what many of the horse's I've encountered were taught with.

I don't like seeing them in gaming just because it seems too easy for the horse to be over jabbed with them, I'm also personally not comfortable with pointed spurs. I find it hard to believe a horse is lazy enough to need something sharp to get them moving.

It really depends how hard the rider is with his\her heels. I am very light. But I do see your point. I have seen some gamers jabbing the heck out of their horses until they bleed. :-(

bubba13 03-31-2011 03:32 PM

Also, no one should get spurs until they've proven themselves ready for them. That's where the saying "earn your spurs" comes from. Until you have a quiet leg and no how to kick a horse without jabbing and poking, you DO NOT need a pair of pointed metal spikes stabbed on your heel. Statements like this:

Quote:

I have only been in an English saddle once, and only for a trat around the yard, when I was looking to buy another horse. So I have never ridden without spurs.
really concern me, because that tells me you've never learned the subtlety and refinement of leg cues that should come long before spurs are handed out.

Also,

Quote:

I have been in many incidents where they have saved me from something awful.
What do you mean by that?

Zeke 03-31-2011 03:33 PM

Bubba makes a great point I left out...spurs should not be used when a rider kicks, ever. The right way to ride in spurs is to "roll".

To me, no matter how light you kick it's still too much. Also, bleeding is not the only way to indicate pain and annoyance.

RodeoLoco 03-31-2011 03:34 PM

Bubba, double sided spurs are spurs you can flip. You can set them as sharp, or dull. And I use sharp spurs, not to make my horse go faster, but to listen to my cues better. Thats the way he was trained. I am not gouging pieces out of him. These cues are very important, because I cut cattle. I cannot use my reins all the time.

bubba13 03-31-2011 03:35 PM

As a general rule, if a horse is popping his tail when you kick or bump, he's been soured by spurs (or just rough kicking). And he's not running as hard as he could otherwise, AND he's most likely soured for life....that's a hard, hard problem to fix.

barrelracer892 03-31-2011 03:37 PM

As long as they're not abused, of course, I don't see a problem with them. I personally don't use them because my horse nor I have a need for them. They're a helpful tool that can help refine your leg aids if your horse needs a little more oomph, but I don't like seeing people use them to kick the crap out of their horse. It's just not necessary.

Zeke 03-31-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RodeoLoco (Post 981566)
Bubba, double sided spurs are spurs you can flip. You can set them as sharp, or dull. And I use sharp spurs, not to make my horse go faster, but to listen to my cues better. Thats the way he was trained. I am not gouging pieces out of him. These cues are very important, because I cut cattle. I cannot use my reins all the time.

You said you use the sharp spurs when running games...that's a no no to me. Spurs in cutting, yeah sure I can see that but still doesn't NEED to be a rockgrinder type. I've seen many successful horses ridden in lesser spurs and the cues are plenty refined.


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