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Sowel 04-08-2011 01:00 AM

Please help me chose the stallion to breed my mare to
 
A woman has called and is willing to trade Koba for a breeding (we went to see them today) but I don't know whitch stallion to choose...
Stark
15.0 hh
Can reg. foal with PtHA
Has not been riden
Gental
http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/100_7018.jpg
http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/100_7017.jpg

General
15.2 or 3
Has had a foal (cute chestnut with a blanket from a mustang)
Ubable to reg. foal
Gentle (wouldn't leave me alone)

http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/100_7008.jpg
http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/100_7009.jpg
http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/100_7011.jpg

Min Fray (the mare)
14.3hh
No markings
never had a foal
good all around horse
Unreg.


http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...ab1ea_full.jpg

http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...e7fe9_full.jpg

ArabianLover2456 04-08-2011 01:09 AM

i hope this is a joke...

Scoope 04-08-2011 01:20 AM

is this a belated april fools??

WildAcreFarms 04-08-2011 03:00 AM

I like the spotted stallion. who is the grey horse? is that one of the stud choices?
I still like the spotted one :)

ArabianLover2456 04-08-2011 03:19 AM

Quote:

is this a belated april fools??
i sure hope so :S

Chiilaa 04-08-2011 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArabianLover2456 (Post 990379)
i sure hope so :S

I hope so too. *head desk*

Scoope 04-08-2011 03:25 AM

Quote:

I still like the spotted one :)
...really?....'the spotted one'...?

smrobs 04-08-2011 03:28 AM

Not to sound rude, but none of the above. To breed a mare just because you can is one of the worst reasons to breed; right behind "I want a babee cause theyre so kyoot".

As far as breeding quality goes, your mare is okay. Nothing spectacular, but not much that is absolutely horrid either. Her back seems pretty long and her shoulder is pretty upright but that's the worst of it other than just general aesthetic things.

HOWEVER, she isn't registered and it is unlikely that the foal would be able to be registered (even breeding to a paint does not guarantee a pinto foal). Has she done anything spectacular in her given discipline that would scream "I need to reproduce!"? Have you had her tested for genetic diseases like HYPP and HERDA?

As for the stallions: Nope, not no way, not no how. I would never breed to a stud that has never even been ridden. Sweet temperament does not always translate to the saddle. I have known quite a few horses that were sweet as they could be on the ground but their attitude under saddle earned them a one-way ticket to the killers. That knocks the paint out. Even if that didn't, his front pasterns are exceptionally upright which, if passed on to the foal, holds potential for countless soundness issues.

The appy is slightly better but still a long way from breeding quality IMHO. The combination of a thick bull neck, upright shoulder, and the fact that he has virtually no chest at all makes him ugly and even his color can't hide that from an objective eye.

I don't know what "Koba" is or why this woman is willing to trade a breeding for it, but either way, you are getting taken. Whoever owns these stallions has already proven, to me, that they will breed to anything with 4 legs and a uterus and that tells me that they are completely irresponsible breeders.

The only way to protect horses from the slaughter houses is to be responsible about breeding and only breed quality animals. Breeding because you have a mare and because you were offered a breeding is not responsible breeding.

ArabianLover2456 04-08-2011 03:33 AM

well said!

nrhareiner 04-08-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by smrobs (Post 990385)
Not to sound rude, but none of the above. To breed a mare just because you can is one of the worst reasons to breed; right behind "I want a babee cause theyre so kyoot".

As far as breeding quality goes, your mare is okay. Nothing spectacular, but not much that is absolutely horrid either. Her back seems pretty long and her shoulder is pretty upright but that's the worst of it other than just general aesthetic things.

HOWEVER, she isn't registered and it is unlikely that the foal would be able to be registered (even breeding to a paint does not guarantee a pinto foal). Has she done anything spectacular in her given discipline that would scream "I need to reproduce!"? Have you had her tested for genetic diseases like HYPP and HERDA?

As for the stallions: Nope, not no way, not no how. I would never breed to a stud that has never even been ridden. Sweet temperament does not always translate to the saddle. I have known quite a few horses that were sweet as they could be on the ground but their attitude under saddle earned them a one-way ticket to the killers. That knocks the paint out. Even if that didn't, his front pasterns are exceptionally upright which, if passed on to the foal, holds potential for countless soundness issues.

The appy is slightly better but still a long way from breeding quality IMHO. The combination of a thick bull neck, upright shoulder, and the fact that he has virtually no chest at all makes him ugly and even his color can't hide that from an objective eye.

I don't know what "Koba" is or why this woman is willing to trade a breeding for it, but either way, you are getting taken. Whoever owns these stallions has already proven, to me, that they will breed to anything with 4 legs and a uterus and that tells me that they are completely irresponsible breeders.

The only way to protect horses from the slaughter houses is to be responsible about breeding and only breed quality animals. Breeding because you have a mare and because you were offered a breeding is not responsible breeding.


Thanks you saved me a bunch of time.


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