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manca 04-29-2011 04:22 PM

Please help me make a diet for a pony that had laminitis
Vriski has about 250kg (551Ibs), and 12hands. He doesn't work (except from 10mins lunging 3x a week). He doesn't have laminitis right now, but he had foundered before we got him. So it won't end good for him if he gets laminitis again.

Currently I feed him soaked hay (have it in water for few hours), vitamins (like the instructions says), and every other day he gets handful of flax seed.
He grazes about 5minutes everyday, I'm terriefied and I'm probably overreacting...

So what would you add, change?
For how long should I let him graze?

manca 04-30-2011 08:32 AM

What do you feed to horses that had laminitis?

Left Hand Percherons 04-30-2011 09:55 AM

His diet looks fine. Some things you can do to fine tune it is only allow him to graze before noon. Grasses will be lowest in sugars early in the morning and as the day goes on they snythesize sugars and they're highest in the early evening. The other thing you can do is get your hay tested. Certain varieties and the time of day it was cut can have a dramatic effect on the sugar levels. You might find that soaking is unnecessary. Working him everyday is probably the biggest thing you can do to help him.

SocietyJoe 04-30-2011 10:02 AM

I am no expert at this sort of thing, im 15* but when we had my pony that suffered alot from laminitus and he was in work we feed him chaff, gum nuts or pony nuts [mostly gum nuts] and one carrot. This was because i rode him almost everyday though. When he was not in work, we used to feed him very low sugar content. With your horse hay is the main thing he would need also vitamin's so stick to that, and the flaux seeds for that extra BAM in his feed. Although I wouldnt let him graze for to long, have you thought about investing in a grazing muzzle? It allows the horse to pick up a small amount of grass, and then he wouldnt over eat or be at risk of laminitis.

As I was saying, I am not an expert. :D

Saddlebag 04-30-2011 11:12 AM

You might want to look in to feeding a complete feed, either pelleted or extruded. He can also have small amounts of oat straw for roughage which is important to a horse's gut. If you do switch him to pelleted feed, give it to him in the absolutely biggest contain you can find. The more you can scatter it the better it will slow him down and better mimic grazing. I've used an old table and screwed 1x4 boards on just to prevent the feed from going on the ground. This allowed me to really scatter the pellets instead of the horse bolting it down and looking for more. The faster it goes it, the faster it comes out.

manca 04-30-2011 03:16 PM

Thanks for advices everybody :)

I have two different hays, one is for mare, that one is quite rich, and one for him, it was the fourth cut + it was raining the day before we cut it (and that was in the morning). I'm quite sure it's not as rich as the first one :P

I'll work with him more, but he can be only lunged, because his bone is rotated.

I think I'm gonna stick with hay and not with pelleted feed, because we own
fields, and we would have to sell hay if horses wouldn't eat it.

I was thinking about grazing muzzle, actually I was asking for it in the shop last time, but they didn't have it. I'll have to go to other shop, if they have it... That depends on when someone will be able to drive me.

Peggysue 05-01-2011 04:27 AM

it sounds like you are doing a great job... what supplements/vitamins are you giving him now?

I have had great luck with Remission if you can get it

manca 05-01-2011 07:21 AM

How long do you think I should let him graze in the morning? How long with a grazing muzzle and how long without? Our grass is very lush + it's spring... And how much longer can he graze if it was raining or it's cloudy?

About vitamins:
I have Reformin plus right now, it's from Germany.

Contains 14,2%Calcium, 5% Phosphor, 5% Natrium, 1,5% Magnesium.

on one kilogram are 600000 I.E Vitamin A, 60000 I.E Vitamin D3, 5000mg Vitamin E, 4000mg Vitamin C, Vitamin B1, B2, B6, B12, nicotinic acid, pantothenic acid, folic acid, biotin, Choline chloride, iron, manganese, zinc, copper, iodine, selenium.

I feed him 50g a day, as instructions say.

What to you think about this mix?
Maybe it's different because I'm from Europe and we have different ground here (guessing). But as he doesn't get any vitamins and minerals from his food what do you think?

Should I choose another one?

Peggysue 05-01-2011 07:47 AM

the only thing I see lacking is protiens lysine and the other amino acids but he may getting for then enough from his hay

on the grazing I let my lamaitis prone mare out over nights with a grazing muzzle

manca 05-01-2011 10:35 AM

It also says that things that are putting all this together (in the pellets) are also wheat germs, wheat flour, wheat bran, brewer's yeast, soy oil and few others like MgO, calcium carbonate, etc...

Sorry, saw it now, it's written on the other side and I have to translate this things from german...

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