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Cheyennes mom 05-03-2011 11:26 PM

help with sidepassing/leg yielding! (eng + west.)
 
hello!!
So I'm having a lot of trouble getting Cheyenne to side pass. Especially to the left. I'm doing everything right I'm almost positive. I got Cheyenne's owner to look at what I'm doing and Cheyenne did it fine then and so obviously I'm doing it right (I lease Cheyenne).
Say I'm trying to get her to sidepass to the left- I bring up my right arm and put it over her neck slightly and then I put my left arm out so that I'm not exactly pulling on her but i'm basically opening a gate (if that makes sense). then my right leg goes back and my left leg goes off her. I press with my right leg and sometimes I tap her on the rump with a crop. I give the slightest pull on the right rein just to encourage her sometimes and she either backs up, or turns her whole body and starts walking to the left.
She knows how to do it, I've gotten her to do it before but she doesn't seem to do it now. It's SO annoying!! I do the opposite thing to go right and she'll sometimes do it a little bit but not enough that it would count in shows. Cheyenne will sidepass if we're walking or trotting just not when we're standing.

If you think you can help me then PLEASE do!! I need suggestions!! Thanks!!

Spyder 05-03-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheyennes mom (Post 1022642)
hello!!
So I'm having a lot of trouble getting Cheyenne to side pass. Especially to the left. I'm doing everything right I'm almost positive. I got Cheyenne's owner to look at what I'm doing and Cheyenne did it fine then and so obviously I'm doing it right (I lease Cheyenne).
Say I'm trying to get her to sidepass to the left- I bring up my right arm and put it over her neck slightly and then I put my left arm out so that I'm not exactly pulling on her but i'm basically opening a gate (if that makes sense). then my right leg goes back and my left leg goes off her. I press with my right leg and sometimes I tap her on the rump with a crop. I give the slightest pull on the right rein just to encourage her sometimes and she either backs up, or turns her whole body and starts walking to the left.
She knows how to do it, I've gotten her to do it before but she doesn't seem to do it now. It's SO annoying!! I do the opposite thing to go right and she'll sometimes do it a little bit but not enough that it would count in shows. Cheyenne will sidepass if we're walking or trotting just not when we're standing.

If you think you can help me then PLEASE do!! I need suggestions!! Thanks!!


The closest thing to WESTERN sidepassing in English is the leg yield and we do not do it in the manner you are describing.

If you are leasing then you should ask her owner what specific aids they use.

Cheyennes mom 05-03-2011 11:45 PM

yeah...I guess I shouldn't have put leg yielding in the title but anyways. How do you do that then? Maybe I can try it :)

Spyder 05-04-2011 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheyennes mom (Post 1022677)
yeah...I guess I shouldn't have put leg yielding in the title but anyways. How do you do that then? Maybe I can try it :)


Based on your other thread the owner of this horse has no idea on how to ride and probably doesn't even do a side pass correctly.

From left to right.

Both hands just above the front of the saddle with neither crossing over the horse's neck. Right leg at the girth, left leg on but not pressing and gives as the horse moves sideways ( should still feel the horse ). Right leg at the girth will activate the horse to move sideways left and if it also moves forward you will allow it but you will continue to ask for a sideways movement as well. You will not pull on the reins but keep an even contact. Don't worry what the head is doing initially but simply be patient and wait for the horse to respond. A whip also tapping the horse on the right side to supplement your leg aid may be necessary.

Only ask for a few steps at a time.

Cheyennes mom 05-04-2011 12:09 AM

she does know how to ride okay believe me. In shows she wins all the time and she's an awesome instructor and she's awesome to her horses. Lets drop that topic.

As for how to do it, thanks! I'll print that out and try it next time I go and tell you the results. Do you think I should keep working at the fence? I've been bringing her over so that she's facing a fence. Should I keep trying that or should I try going into the middle of the arena? I've seen people sidepassing over a trotting poll as well. Should I try that?

Spyder 05-04-2011 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheyennes mom (Post 1022723)

As for how to do it, thanks! I'll print that out and try it next time I go and tell you the results. Do you think I should keep working at the fence? I've been bringing her over so that she's facing a fence. Should I keep trying that or should I try going into the middle of the arena? I've seen people sidepassing over a trotting poll as well. Should I try that?

Make it simple and just try a few steps out in the open. Use a fence as a last resort. Don't even try the pole yet.

Cheyennes mom 05-04-2011 07:39 PM

okay thanks I'll try it sometime this week. :)


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