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Kymbadina 05-05-2011 09:00 AM

Critique Gunnar's daily feed.
1 1/4lbs Buckeye's Gro N Win split into am and pm feeding.
I don't have the option of free choice hay, I'm boarding. He get's 2flakes am and 2-3pm. I buy extra hay in the winter months but he is at a perfect weight(per the vet) where he's at.
I try to graze him for at least an hour since the yards are very green and lush. He only eats the clover :) silly boy.
But my farrier was telling me about vita ferm
What do you think? Gunnar has healthy sound feet which leads me to believe he's all around healthy. But I'm not opposed to feeding a vitamin supplament.
Anyone who knows better about percentages than me? Are there any other better ones? The closest store that sells this is about 20 minutes in the opposite if I can find an even better one closer.. I'll be happy :)
But if that's a good all around vitamin I'll make the trip to get it.
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barrelracer892 05-05-2011 11:12 AM

If you're already feeding the Gro n Win then you don't need another vitamin supplement. He's already getting everything he needs :]
Also, can you find out how much hay he's getting by weight? If I used my square bales to feed my horses daily 2 flakes twice a day wouldn't be enough for them, but your flakes might be bigger. That's why I'm asking. He should be getting 1-2% of his bodyweight in hay daily, so even though he's at a healthy weight he still might need more.

Kymbadina 05-05-2011 10:08 PM

Unfortunately I don't have a scale :/ I board and don't have a scale or know where to get one that would measure how much they weigh. :(
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barrelracer892 05-06-2011 09:14 AM

Hmm... When I measure grain I put it in a plastic bag and use a small fish scale. I got it from Wal Mart for $20. I got the digital kind instead so that's why it's so expensive, or else it would've been about $5. It registers a pretty good bit of weight, so maybe you could put a flake or two of hay in a bag and weigh it like that.

Alwaysbehind 05-06-2011 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Kymbadina (Post 1024892)
Unfortunately I don't have a scale :/ I board and don't have a scale or know where to get one that would measure how much they weigh. :(
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Scales are cheap.

Like Barrel mentioned, you can get them in the fishing department at Walmart for next to nothing.
Or you can get a little fancier and use a kitchen digital scale. Not an overly pricey item either.

If you truly do not want to buy a scale, take your measured portion of grain in a clean (on the outside) ziploc bag to your local produce department and set it on one of the produce scales.

westonsma 05-06-2011 01:05 PM

Why go through all this? I think 4-6 flakes a day is plenty if you're providing a grain. I'm going to post a thread about a feed I found!! I only feed 3/4lb a day, and my girl looks AWESOME!! Granted, I ride her hard every day, but there are 4-5 other formulas they make. It's called Gen-X, do you have it available where you are?

How much do you feed a day? How much does one bag cost?
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westonsma 05-06-2011 01:09 PM

ooh yeah! It also has all the trace minerals, lots of vitamin A, D3, and biotin in it. there is of course, a crude protein, but it also has Lysine and Methionine, which are also necessary proteins. low fat, so the energy spent comes from protein and builds stamina!
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Kymbadina 05-06-2011 06:42 PM

I didn't know walmart had scales :) I'll try to get one this weekend!
I feed Gro n Win,it sounds the same as what your feeding. A ration balancer? And thanks. I personally think it's a good routine.. The vet scored him at a 6 and she likes between 5 and 7. Giving less grain isn't an option. It's the minimum for his body weight and activity level. I've already talked to the butritionist about my friends tb who's on pasture now and apparently fat. She said limit grazing but DON'T cut back gro n win. Cutting back gro n win would mean he doesn't get all his nutrients. :)
So, if Gunnar is already a 6...feeding more hay..I don't want him fat. I don't want founder or any other issues due to fatness..
I don't know if I can get that around here..
I pay 27.50 after taxes per bag. He get's 1 and 1/4 lbs per day. It came with a coffee cup that one whole cup measures 1/2 lb. So he gets 1 and 1/4 cup 2X daily.
But! The feed store offers a buy 10 get 1 free deal so it's really like 25 even a bag :)
Who makes the supplier of Gen-x? I know Buckeye supplies gro n win
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westonsma 05-06-2011 09:51 PM

Chris Kropf is the man behind it, but Manna Pro actually bags it. The performance formula I feed is a 32% protein, 5% fat. And it is $35 a bag, but ends up being $1
7.50 a month. It IS a very high protein, but it is balanced with more than one source and is not a pit feed. my mare actually settled down and was more stable minded after just six weeks. I can tell a huge difference in under a week if not having that feed. And the probioticprevent ulcers.
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YoungCowgirl 05-06-2011 10:29 PM

Coming from a natural horse caretaker/guru. All I see is lot's of processed feed that your horse will be unable to accurately digest since his system not developed for such pelleted feed, and a poor feeding arrangement. Horses are natural grazers that are supposed to graze 24/7 at a low stance (head down). And I will refrain from accusing you, but most people I see who feed grains, feed it high off the ground, which makes it all that more risky. Feeding from up high (grain & hay) causes incorrect wear of their teeth. Going long times without feed also causes unnatural things to occur in stomach, resulting in nasty issues such as ulcers. Ulcers and other issues can cause many personality inflicting behaviors (most far from good).

This is just my opinion.

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