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Horsesdontlie 05-23-2011 09:14 PM

Yeah, nice to meet you too. Bad impressions.
 
Okay here is another people rant.

I just moved to a new stables about two days ago, it's been pretty quiet so I havent met that many people. So I'm sitting in my pen when a girl is walking by with a young Arab/paint. She stops and asks me about my horses when hers spooks and bounces around with it's nose on the air and flagging it's tail. I just smiled and said "theres an Arab." the lady looks at me a stalks off. I shrug and go back to my work. The arena is right next to my pens so she works for a minute, keeping looking in my direction. Then finally stops and shouts out "have you ever work with an Arabian?" I replied saying, "yeah I have worked with a lot and my paint has an Arab brain" the lady grew even more pissed and started shouting about the fact she can't stand people like me and that Arabs can be wonderful horses and she has three of the calmest ones.

Now I was taken aback. I LOVE Arabians. I love working and riding them and I Plan to get one after Jake passes.

Anyhow I explain this but she shook her head saying "they are just horses like the rest just because he's being bad it isn't because he is an Arabian." now I kept trying to agree with her, but saying that every breed has a general form of quirks. Arabians are mostly high strung and active because of their breeding. I assured aT an Arab breeding farm for a year. I am familiar with them. Anyhow I just ended up turning around and walking away.

Yeah nice to meet you too.
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DSJ46 05-23-2011 09:18 PM

You have to get selective about whom you deal with. Many horse owners come from money, and monied people are often snotty people. If I could just get some to stalk off (without standing around giving advice all the time!)

trailhorserider 05-23-2011 09:29 PM

I love Arabians. My first and second horses were Arabians. I think I would have been offended by your statements too (and I'm dirt poor by the way- Arabs are actually the cheapest horses in my area).

I know where you are coming from, because right now I have a Foxtrotter that I swear thinks she's an Arabian. She is the most people friendly, loveable horse. And 9 times out of 10 she is pretty calm and tractable. But occasionally she will get excited and "turned on" and once she goes into hyper mode, it is hard to get her turned off. So I joke that she is my big Arabian.

BUT, the way you worded it, I can see how the gal might have gotten offended, because I would have too. Maybe I am just too sensitive, but I can understand why she was upset.

Arabians are GREAT horses, but they are sensitive. Not everyone wants (or can) deal with a sensitive horse.

morabhobbyhorse 05-23-2011 09:43 PM

DSJ46, isn't that the truth. At my last barn there was a woman who boarded two horses, and FIRST said her saddles were out being cleaned. They never showed up. When she finally got around to riding one of them with a BO saddle, I had to saddle the horse for her. She didn't have a clue. She liked to come out to catch up on the latest gossip, start trouble, AND tell you how to train your horse. I'd be taking a break and Sienna would be at the rail and as soon as I walked off she'd start pawing (She's a Morab by the way and I love Arabians too but she's too smart for her own good.) This woman would yell at Sienna, and then say, 'Aren't you gonna make her quit?' I told her 'nope, tried, she wants me to come back and that just reinforces what she's doing.' So the woman goes over to Sienna and tells her to stop, and stands there until I come back. Her favorite two words were You should.......I pretty much know a lot of the time what I should do, although I can be in a fog a lot of times, LOL. Glad to be away from there I can tell you!!

Reiterin 05-23-2011 09:47 PM

I'm sure you didn't mean to be rude or offensive, but I can also understand why she was offended. No one wants to hear the "bad" (or percieved to be bad) things about their breed. - Some people would have taken it as a joke and shrugged it off. clearly she did not.

Wallaby 05-23-2011 09:48 PM

I also love Arabians. If I get to choose my next horse (I seem to "attract" animals so I probably won't get to choose, it will probably choose me), I will be choosing another Arabian.
If it were me, I would have laughed with you about your first comment because I love it when my mare busts out her tail-flagging "crazy" Arab-ness, but if you said to me the thing about your horse having an Arab brain I probably would have been slightly offended. I automatically interpreted that as you putting down Arabians, you know?
To me, it's one of those things you "don't" say unless you're joking around with someone you're friends/good acquaintances with. Just like you wouldn't say "oh, it's ok, I'm black on the inside" (if you're not black) to a black person you just met in an attempt to reassure them that you have no issue with them after you said something that they found mildly offensive, you know?

The next time you see her, if you're interested in being friends, you might try asking her about her horses and just generally being friendly. I bet she won't hold it against you if she realizes that you genuinely love Arabs and that your comments were totally not meant in a negative way.

And I totally get where you're coming from! I do the same thing. I say something, that sounded completely friendly and harmless in my head, that ends up mildly offending someone and then I try to back out of it but I end up just making it tons worse for myself. Thankfully I come across like that babysitter from The Incredibles so people generally don't take me exactly seriously until they know me, but I understand where you're coming from.

DSJ46 05-23-2011 10:02 PM

People talk about thoroughbreds all the time. It doesn't offend me. I just smile and say I was lucky enough to get one who is a Valium.

trailhorserider 05-23-2011 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DSJ46 (Post 1044474)
You have to get selective about whom you deal with. Many horse owners come from money, and monied people are often snotty people. If I could just get some to stalk off (without standing around giving advice all the time!)

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Originally Posted by morabhobbyhorse (Post 1044492)
DSJ46, isn't that the truth. At my last barn there was a woman who boarded two horses, and FIRST said her saddles were out being cleaned. They never showed up. When she finally got around to riding one of them with a BO saddle, I had to saddle the horse for her. She didn't have a clue. She liked to come out to catch up on the latest gossip, start trouble, AND tell you how to train your horse. I'd be taking a break and Sienna would be at the rail and as soon as I walked off she'd start pawing (She's a Morab by the way and I love Arabians too but she's too smart for her own good.) This woman would yell at Sienna, and then say, 'Aren't you gonna make her quit?' I told her 'nope, tried, she wants me to come back and that just reinforces what she's doing.' So the woman goes over to Sienna and tells her to stop, and stands there until I come back. Her favorite two words were You should.......I pretty much know a lot of the time what I should do, although I can be in a fog a lot of times, LOL. Glad to be away from there I can tell you!!

I agree, there can always be snobs out there. But I didn't get that from this situation. She had a cross-breed, a youngster, and was working with it herself. I wasn't there of course, but from what I've read that doesn't scream "snob" to me. If she were a snob, she would be bragging about her purebred yadda-yadda, what great bloodlines it's from, and how she's going to have her trainer train it, and it's going to go out and win every show out there. But hey, I wasn't there.

Sometimes I think Arabian owners are extra-defensive because we feel like we have to always defend our horses against people who make rude comments about them (not saying that the original poster did, but that is how we perceive it because people are always making rude comments about Arabians). So after a while, we can become a bit more sensitive than we should be. :-|

Back when I was in a boarding situation, I had two Arabians and I got tired of hearing about "crazy Arabians." But what finally gave me peace was the realization that the people that talked the most were the people that had trouble with their own horses. And MY horses carried me safely everywhere and out on the trails by myself. I feel like actions speak louder than words, and my Arabians were good, solid citizens. The only reason I don't have them now is because they passed away.

morabhobbyhorse 05-23-2011 10:53 PM

I agree about things people say at times about Arabians. I've loved them all my life and I remember once saying I wanted to get one, and the person I was taking to said, "And all this time I thought you were smart." I asked my farrier once what he thought Sienna looked like because a girl kept telling me she was convinced Sienna was a mustang. i said, 'I don't even know what that means, mustangs look all different kinds of ways.' He said, 'no way, you can tell she's an Arabian. Look at how she's acting.' She was pawing at the rail because I was ignoring her. She's high energy at times, very intelligent which allows her to see the exact second I'm not paying attention so she tries to get away with something. We have an ongoing battle on who's alpha because unless she does something I consider dangerous (pushing me, running past me and through her regular halter, something really disrespectful) I end up laughing at her more often than not.
The last time I saw her was the day she moved to the new barn and they already had her in a pasture with some other mares, and she was actually being good. maybe they'd done the alpha thing before I got there, I don't know. A mare was eating at a hay pile and Sienna was clear across the pasture exploring, her back to me. I called her, and she turned around immediately. I could see the wheels spinning. 'It's just Mom and maybe I'll make her join up again today.' She took a bite of grass, moseyed a couple steps, stopped to smell horse droppings, BUT the other mare went crazy, LOL. This all happened in a matter of seconds. She started trotting over to me like, "Wow, will you be my human?" Sienna saw her and raced across the field before the mare ever got to me and ran her off. It was just a lot of squealing and Sienna striking but not close enough to hit the other mare than moved off quickly. Yet in a way Sienna was acting like the alpha to me, protecting me or jealous or whatever. I probably should have done something but it was just so funny. If I'm unintelligent, or the farrier chooses to think pawing is some kind of horrible bad Arabian habit, I usually can just blow it off.

Hidalgo13 05-23-2011 10:55 PM

Maybe I just have a very large sense of humor and am not easily offended, but if I were the woman and you told me this (if the manner wasn't said in a snotty, pompous way, etc... which I doubt it was) ;) I would not have been offended one bit. Would have laughed over it with you actually. But some people are more sensitive to comments. You have to be careful sometimes.


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