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MacabreMikolaj 05-29-2011 01:17 PM

Fading black or brown?
 
After doing some quick research on seal brown, I am under the impression that seal brown is almost defined by lighter coloring on the muzzle and in the flank areas. Am I wrong? We were trying to determine if this horse is brown or fading black, and based on another individual I know who had her horse definitively tested for black and fades WAY worse then this, I'm inclined to say he's fading black? He's jet black in winter, and this is as faded as he ever gets:

Summer:

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1947574_n.jpg

Spring:

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._8035503_n.jpg

Winter:
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._8033889_n.jpg

NdAppy 05-29-2011 01:29 PM

Fading black IMO.

Poseidon 05-29-2011 01:32 PM

Another vote for sunfading.

MacabreMikolaj 05-29-2011 01:38 PM

Is it true about the lighter coloring? Like if a horse remains with a jet black head, is that an indication of fading as opposed to brown?

Jynx goes through the same thing in summer where her flank patches fade so badly they look light bay but her head always remains jet black. With so much white, it's difficult to determine what she actually is.

Winter:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...7_275088_n.jpg

Spring:
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._7137762_n.jpg

Summer:
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...6_958714_n.jpg

Hehe, thanks for all your help NdAppy! I'm not bad with colors, but this black/brown thing confuses me!

NdAppy 05-29-2011 02:19 PM

I would say that she sun fades pretty extremely.

And no problem MM. :-D

NdAppy 05-29-2011 02:20 PM

Oh, forgot to add, I am guessing she is out 24/7?

aneternalflame 05-29-2011 03:13 PM

I agree with NdAppy..
Some horses who are tested black can fade far more than that mare you posted.. for example this horse is a tested black. You can see how faded/crackly/burnt the mane and tail are too.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...blackpaint.jpg

hflmusicislife 05-29-2011 04:30 PM

^^ Wow. I never would've guess that...

I agree with everyone else, fading black.

MacabreMikolaj 05-29-2011 09:48 PM

Thanks guys!

Yes, Jynx is kept out 24/7 and is not blanketed in summer at all (she'll have a fly sheet this year). I "knew" she was black because I've seen photos of her parents, and they appeared pretty blatantly black to me, just those flank spots get SO light, they throw me for a loop! Her head always stays almost jet black though, so I assumed it was just extreme fading.

Hehe, I told Dominator's leaser (the Trakehner I posted) that my highly evolved and intelligent geneticist friends say he's a fading black so she's delighted. :lol: I see him in personally regularly, and he's as black as black gets except for that bit of rosy "blooming" on his neck right now and he's been blanketed so that makes sense!


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