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melinda27858 05-11-2008 12:40 PM

Panacur Powerpac
Anyone had success with this product? It was recommended to me by my BM/Trainer for my gelding.

He is fed more hay and grain than any other horse at the barn, including Strategy, and has put on only a little bit of weight (he was a tiny bit ribby when I first got him). He is turned out 24/7, with a little bit of grass in his pasture to nibble on. I work him almost every nice day, and he started to put on muscle, but then plateaued. And he is VERY slowly shedding his winter coat, while everyone else is just about sleek and shiny. He was sick witht the flu for a week about a month ago (?)...but really didn't lose any weight during that time. He only stopped eating for one day.

I am trying out the Powerpac to see if maybe worms may be the issue. He has had one regular worming since brought out to my barn and one extra because of some other wormy horses several months ago. His previous owner said he had him on a regular schedule and even told us what regular wormer to use next in his regular cycle.

tim 05-11-2008 12:56 PM

Yea the powerpac is great. Only thing though, it will kill the worms but they could come back. Depending on his worming schedule and the worming schedules of the horses he is in close contact with, the problems could come back after a few months.

Happened with my horse.

melinda27858 05-11-2008 02:47 PM

At the barn I am at, everybody is on the same worming schedule per the barn manager....I am hoping that once I get him straight, the schedule will keep him straight.

Was that the case with your horse? Or was everyone doing their own thing?

tim 05-11-2008 08:47 PM

Yea, the problem was that all the horses were on their own schedules, and no one really adhered to them. Once we got a standardized worming program, we haven't seen worms again.

It should work out for you. :)

Ryle 05-11-2008 09:39 PM

I am not a big fan of the Powerpac due to the fact that it has been shown to cause severe GI inflammation and even ulceration after use. It's claim to fame is that it kills encysted strongyles, however these aren't what cause weight loss/hard keeping. You would do better off to focus on the whole picture---diet, a good overall deworming plan, possible health issues.

If you want to deworm for encysted strongyles, Moxidectin is also effective without causing the GI inflammation.

How old is your horse? What all does he get fed and in what amounts? What kind of deworming program is he currently on? How is he kept? (Pasture, paddock, dry lot, with other horses, feces picked up daily or every couple of days in paddock/pasture, weather conditions).

melinda27858 05-11-2008 10:44 PM

He has just turned 5 in Feb. He gets two flakes of hay, full scoop of 10-10 grain, full measurement of strategy (whatever their supplied scooper will hold)....all this twice a day.
When I had the vet out to test if he had virus or bacterial infection (when he was sick a month ago), we also did an immune booster, not sure what it is called.
This is from memory, I have it written down at the January, had Ivermectrin Gold, in March had a precaution. Pretty much a dry lot with very little grass to munch on. Has been by himself since March. Feces picked up every couple of days. We are in North Carolina, mild weather as far as winter was concerned. It has been warming up a lot lately, and turned out to be a wetter spring than the past few.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Ryle 05-12-2008 09:21 AM

Ok, you need to start by getting weights on your feed. Purina doesn't supply a scoop with Strategy so I'm really not sure how much you are giving. And getting a weight on your hay would also be a good idea. You need to be sure that you are feeding appropriate amounts by weight. Take a plain old bathroom scale out and weigh what you are giving, then compare it to what the bag labels recommend.

A horse needs a minimum of 1.5% of his body weight in forage a day. For the "average" 1000lb horse, that's 15 lbs of hay. And it needs to be good quality otherwise you need to provide supplemental protein and vitamins to make up for what is lacking in the hay. So while Strategy would be a good choice for this because it's a higher protein feed, giving it along with a 10% protein feed serves to drop the overall protein content of the diet.

In a dry lot that is picked of feces every couple of days, your horse's parasite recontamination risk is pretty low. Grazing in feces contaminated areas is the biggest source of reinfection and your horse isn't doing that. You would probably be better off to deworm twice a year with ivermectin/praziquantel or moxidectin/praziquantel spring and fall and then do fecal egg counts about 3-4 months after deworming to see if your horse needs to be dewormed again.

melinda27858 05-12-2008 05:17 PM

I apologize.....he isn't on Strategy, he is on Amplify (and I could be wrong, but I am almost sure it came with a measuring cup).

I am new to horse ownership, so I am still learning! I am not the one who feeds him (I board) although that will change soon if he doesn't begin putting on weight just so that I can be hands on in affecting a change. I have just been amazed at the amount of food he receives in comparison to the other 25 or so horses at the barn! He eats so much more and in most cases is smaller than many. My BM/trainer does not like letting the horses get thin, so she and I have been talking regularly about his weight and the strategies we can take.

I am going to print out your suggestions and talk with my BM again to see what we can change. Thank you for your help!

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