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RideroftheWind 06-02-2011 10:10 PM

Flying Lead Changes
 
I was just wondering how the correct way to do a flying lead change is. I've done it a few times by accident, but I'm not quite sure how I did it. Anyways, how do I do a flying lead change?

Spyder 06-03-2011 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RideroftheWind (Post 1054837)
I was just wondering how the correct way to do a flying lead change is. I've done it a few times by accident, but I'm not quite sure how I did it. Anyways, how do I do a flying lead change?

Since you are having trouble maintaining a canter ( from your other thread) I feel you and the pony are not ready for this endeavor.

RideroftheWind 06-03-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spyder (Post 1055129)
Since you are having trouble maintaining a canter ( from your other thread) I feel you and the pony are not ready for this endeavor.

Hey, don't forget, she's a lesson horse. I ride her often, but I ride other horses too. :-)

Spyder 06-03-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RideroftheWind (Post 1055579)
Hey, don't forget, she's a lesson horse. I ride her often, but I ride other horses too. :-)

That may be true but riding and TEACHING/TRAINING are two totally different things.

If you cannot maintain a canter on a difficult horse then the skills required to TRAIN are not there yet.

RideroftheWind 06-03-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spyder (Post 1055580)
That may be true but riding and TEACHING/TRAINING are two totally different things.

If you cannot maintain a canter on a difficult horse then the skills required to TRAIN are not there yet.

Well, I disagree. I can ride difficult horses. So maybe I can't maintain a full constant canter on one horse, but that's simply because she's been trained to do things that way. If anything, I'm actually RE-TRAINING her. She's a lesson horse, and due to everyone riding her in a certain way, she's learned bad habits while cantering. If I want to ride her effectively, I have to erase all those bad habits she's learned and teach her to do things right. She's very honest, so she doesn't break stride out of stubbornness or laziness. She breaks stride because that's all she's been taught to do. So yes, there is a difference beween riding and training. I posted that question because I need to train her as well as ride her. I already have a pretty good start at that, I just needed some tips to help me along the way.

And please... I don't want to start an arguement. I only asked a question. Telling me that I can't do it is a little demeaning. You've never actually seen me ride (and sorry but I can't post videos online) so you don't really know what level I'm at. I'd appreciate it if you just answered my question and leave it at that.

Anyways, you seem like a fairly skilled rider. I'd be sooo grateful if you could help me out instead of telling me I can't. Thanks. :-)

arashowjumper 06-03-2011 10:46 PM

im teaching my boy to do flying changes, right now, how am i doing it, is gonna be hard to explain but i hope it helps.
it is a slow process i personally dont like to push them specially cos my boy is way to green.
i start cantering arround the arena, then i do diagonal changes extending the cantering not letting him break into trot, when im in the middle of the diagonal y press my outside leg (the leg that was facing to the fences) into the ribs with a oderate pression it will be less and less as he ctahces the idea, bout you have to be very clear on your comands at the bigining, i then change sides and he will do a flying change.
sometimes specially when they are starting they change the font but nbot the hind legs, when that happens i speed a little and canter a circle using my outside leg to ask him to change the hind legs.
its very importat that you do not pull on teh mouth when you ask for the changes and have patience.
when my horse does it 2 times each side im done and happy, once he does it i pad him and congratulate him imediatly, if not i correct my canter and keep trying.
good luck and i hope its clear and it helps.

MIEventer 06-04-2011 01:24 AM

Ask your Coach, if she feels you are competant enough of a rider to do this movement, then she'll show you. Until then, I'd focus more on teaching yourself on how to maintain a proper canter.

RideroftheWind 06-04-2011 08:13 AM

I know how to maintain a canter. But the horse I'm riding doesn't. So when I asked that question, I meant that I have to change my riding in order to teach the horse how to. She's been ridden in such a way that she's learned bad habits. I could enforce what I want using crops and spurs, but I'd rather do it in a way that keeps her happy as well. I want to work with her, not against her.

Again, I only asked a question. Can you please just answer it and not argue? Besides, even if I can't do it now, at least I'll have the information to do it later.

faye 06-04-2011 09:40 AM

You need to learn how to maintain a canter on this horse before you can even begin to think about flying changes.

Infact you need to be able to sustain a bouncy, round, collected canter with impulsion and balance before you can even begin to train a horse to do a flying change.

MIEventer 06-04-2011 10:59 AM

Exactly - Flying Lead Changes are a mid to upper level movement, you have to fully understand how to ride back to front, engagement, collection, impulsion, etc, etc, etc - all the key factors needed, to achieve flying lead changes.

And again, I say - if you want to learn how to do this mid to upper level movement, ask your coach. If she feels you are ready, she'll show you.


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