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Karamee 06-14-2011 05:30 PM

Rearing problem.
 
I have a 2 year old stud horse that has to be kept a stud for agricultural purposes... he is absolutley amazing under saddle, no rearing or buckin what so ever. its only when groundwork applies.. he doesnt want to back up. he gets mad when you take him away from other horses to train.. i am 6 months pregnant and he reared on me when i was holding him and my brother was riding my other horse. he didnt want to sit still and i would not let him go chase my mare while my brother was riding her. so he pranced and pawed in place then when he figured out i wasnt letting him go he reared.. not the kind of rear that intimidates you it was a rear to get out of my way. he stepped forward and reared. i turned and went to move and both his front feet hit me in the back. then about 3 weeks later my friend was messin with him because i am prego. she tried getting him to mind and he reared and longed and completely ran her over.. that same day i got in the round pen with him just to do some longing to see if i could wear him out before backing him up. and he reared up stll.. so as soon as he landed i brought the whip down across his ears about 3 or 4 times and he backed up all the way across the round pen..

Is he just being a bully? or is he just mean? im lost and confused.. it seems everytime he acts up and i smack him he dont want to be smacked so he starts minding... should i keep doing what im doing?

myhorsesonador 06-14-2011 05:49 PM

I would geld him and sell him. It seems like he has already won his battle. Rearing can be extreamly dangerouse as you have already seen. With a baby on the way you don't have time to what needs to be done. Also you are putting the child at risk. It takes a special person to handle a stud, it's not some thing that just any one can do.

Going by what you have said in this thread I can only assume that you are in over you head on this one.

If you really want to keep this horse please higher a Profecinal trainer. We can give advice here but we can't give you the hands on evsperiance that you need to handle some thing like this.

Karamee 06-14-2011 05:57 PM

i have a plan for him ive dealt with a rearer before its just not one that has the intention to hurt people.. on my mare she did the same thing and i used a stud chain on her and it broke her of it.. i dont like using stud chains and whips but i have a feeling its going to be a battle between me and him.. but im waiting till afer the baby is born to start messin with him again beause the dad says if he hurts me again hes a dead horse while im prego.. i believe i can get through to him he is a overall love bug on the ground when you just petting him.. part of me believes hes going throught terrible twos.. other is that i think he dont want to mind.. buteverytime he rears i dont go put him up i run him in the round pen for another 30-45 minutes and then i tie him up so he can think about everything that went on.. i just want some advice on how to get through to him because i dont want him getting smaked and hurt everytime he acts up. im wondering if there are any nicer techniques to getting through to him.. before i take any drastic measures like a stud chain or pulling him over.. so far those are the only thigs i an thin of that will stop him because thats what had to do with my mare and she turned out great..

Karamee 06-14-2011 06:00 PM

he also rears sometimes when trying to back up in he saddle depending on who rides him.. hes 2 nd a half and knows everything so far hes a amazing learner and wants to learn i just think thee is a attitude adjustment waiting to happen.. but it has to wait for another 3 months.. could it be the bit? he only rears when i try getting him to bend at the poll and bak up..

MHFoundation Quarters 06-14-2011 06:02 PM

I would try a war bridle. All you need is a stiff lariat. Open your loop pretty big, hold it to where it makes a "P" with your excess rope hanging on the left. Reach through the loop with your right hand, grab the extra rope and pull enough through to make a noseband. Then put it on like a halter and fit it up snug, be sure the hondo isn't too close to his eye. Wear gloves. When he goes up, pull into the rope it will tighten down on his poll and be very uncomfortable. Won't hurt him but he will think its going to. If he fights let him make it "bite" harder until he changes his tune. Usually works doing it once.
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Golden Horse 06-14-2011 06:06 PM

I'm an old person and I have learned to be suspicious, and I'm afraid to say that I am now, that is in no way being rude, just saying where I am.

If your story is true then sell him, and sell him now before you him or your baby get hurt, there are just to many scary things in your post, so please for everyone's sake pass your boy onto someone who has the skill and knowledge to deal with an escalating problem.

myhorsesonador 06-14-2011 06:06 PM

It's not a fase. He is a stud, and he is testing you. If you wait to fix it he will get worse. If you try to fix it now you and the baby could get hurt. My advice is still to get a trainer, before some one gets killed. Rearing isn't some thing to play around with.

A knack for horses 06-14-2011 06:15 PM

From what you posted, it sounds like your horse is exhibiting stud like behavior. Especially if his goal the first time was to get at your mare.

Like everybody else has said here, sell him. It's not worth putting your child or yourself into danger, and quite honestly (and I mean this in the best way possible) it doesn't sound like you are ready to be handling a stud horse.

sehrlieb 06-14-2011 06:15 PM

Geld him. He sounds like a stud colt who is realizing he is a real boy. This is not a phase and as he gets older and more hormonal he will become even harder to handle. I work on a farm and deal with several breeding stallions, they are not always easy and are often unpredictable and can be dangerous if not dealt with correctly.

Why are you keeping him a stud? To be quite frank you do not sound experienced enough to be handling a stud let alone breeding one. If you have a mare you'd like to breed then find a nice stallion and pay a stud fee. If you can't afford a stud fee for a good stud then you shouldn't be breeding horses anyways.

There is no reason to keep a horse a stud unless it is a phenomenal individual, has the brains to be able to handle being kept intact, and has people around who know how to handle it correctly. You are already short two of these things and I doubt he is of a supreme quality. Geld him and give him the chance to be a nice horse and have a nice life.

Sorry to be so blunt, he sounds like a good boy but hed be a better gelding.

Karamee 06-14-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MHFoundation Quarters (Post 1065193)
I would try a war bridle. All you need is a stiff lariat. Open your loop pretty big, hold it to where it makes a "P" with your excess rope hanging on the left. Reach through the loop with your right hand, grab the extra rope and pull enough through to make a noseband. Then put it on like a halter and fit it up snug, be sure the hondo isn't too close to his eye. Wear gloves. When he goes up, pull into the rope it will tighten down on his poll and be very uncomfortable. Won't hurt him but he will think its going to. If he fights let him make it "bite" harder until he changes his tune. Usually works doing it once.
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i will try this but it will be after the baby is born. my baby wont be near the horse until i know he is safe. im not worried about me getting hurt i dont want someone else getting hurt.. i believe i ca get through to him its just gonna take time and patience.. i dont believe in giving up on a horse.. i have a johhny be good stick and a round pen that is calling his name after the baby is born. i havent touched him in almost 2 months.. but as soon as i can get out there after the baby is born i will.


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