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MightyEventer 06-21-2011 03:43 PM

Bubble/Elevator Bit
 
I use an elevator bit on my horse for jumping and I was always taught to never just put one rein on the bottom hole of a bubble bit, that if you do that, you should have double reins. Lately I have been seeing people with just one rein on the very bottom hole of the bit. I could have sworn there was a rule against this so im just curious if anyone can clarify this with me! Maybe the rule was just for pony club?

Here is a picture of the bit just in case anyone needs it as a reference :)

https://greenrivertack.com/catalog/images/210815.jpg

JustDressageIt 06-21-2011 03:50 PM

Rule, no. But it should be used with two reins.
Too bad it's the jumper/eventer bit du jour. Everyone thinks they need to use one.
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MightyEventer 06-21-2011 04:14 PM

yeah so many people use it, i use it simply because i cant find a bit that my horse responds to out on xc and its not too too harsh but thanks for clarifying the reins up for me! :)

faye 06-21-2011 04:15 PM

Should always be used with two reind but generaly people don't have the knowlege they say they do and it is very very commonly seen with just 1 rein.

MightyEventer 06-21-2011 04:22 PM

ah gotcha, thanks!!

Allison Finch 06-21-2011 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faye (Post 1072138)
Should always be used with two reind but generaly people don't have the knowlege they say they do and it is very very commonly seen with just 1 rein.

Not at all.....


It's not a matter of lack of knowledge, just preference. The reason to have two reins is to have more "options". That's all.

There have been a few times when even I have used it with one rein. I have used it that way on the middle ring and never felt the need to use the bottom ring. However, since its control is mainly through poll pressure and, if you test the bit fully, you will find that the poll pressure is not all that strong, it is not HORRIBLE (as some will suggest) to use it with one rein. All it does is limit your options. On a young horse, I will use two reins. On a seasoned, upper level horse who know everything there is to know about XC, I might use one. Options with that horse might not be what I need......

As you can see, this stallion usually shows in a big french link snaffle.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...tos/w-WOOT.jpg


However, he can be strong on XC. I use a dutch on him and will adjust the rein accordingly. If he is in a receptive mood, I will put it on the snaffle. If he is in a strong mood, I will drop it one ring (not to the bottom), as I did here.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...eLochillXC.jpg

MightyEventer 06-21-2011 04:34 PM

yeah i use one rein for the middle ring but i have never used one for the very bottom, when i needed the very bottom i just used two reins and a chain. with a chain im sure it would not be good to use one rein on the very bottom since im sure it would be too harsh since if i pulled back the chain would tighten quite a bit..or am i wrong?

Allison Finch 06-21-2011 04:41 PM

Hmmm...I've never seen anyone put a curb chain on a dutch bit. I'm not sure I would do it, personally. I am very against broken mouthed curbs. That could make that bit suddenly quite tough, IMHO. Poll pressure I don't mind. Leverage is a different matter.

PoohLP 06-21-2011 04:48 PM

It depends on the rider, on their hands and on their horse. Saying that people who only use one rein don't know what they're doing is incorrect. The fact that you assume there would be no reason to use it like that, Faye, shows that you don't fully understand the bit. As Allison pointed out, there are reasons people, including myself, might choose to use such a bit on one rein on the bottom. In the right hands it is not severe to do so and, in fact, can be quite adjustable.

MightyEventer 06-21-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison Finch (Post 1072161)
Hmmm...I've never seen anyone put a curb chain on a dutch bit. I'm not sure I would do it, personally. I am very against broken mouthed curbs. That could make that bit suddenly quite tough, IMHO. Poll pressure I don't mind. Leverage is a different matter.

i understand what you are saying, i have been planning on getting rid of the chain, it was mainly just because my horse was beginning to take off with me on xc but he has improved alot, and i have been slowly trying to get him to find the pace himself-not me constantly pulling him to slow him down. He def has changed a lot and am hoping to take the chain away this fall


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