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armydogs 07-17-2011 08:51 AM

Freeze Brand
My husband and I are talking about the possibility of freeze branding our horses. I am curious what a freeze brand would do on a flea bitten grey. What color would the hair color come back in as? Darker/lighter? How does that work?

Speed Racer 07-17-2011 09:16 AM

On a fleabitten gray the hair will grow back white, just as it will on any other color horse. You've damaged the skin, so any hair that grows back will be white.

The hair may not grow back at all or just sparsely, which means the black skin underneath will show. Many people shave that area of a gray's neck in order to highlight the freeze brand.

IndiesaurusRex 07-17-2011 10:04 AM

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that when they freezebrand a lighter horse, they either do it differently or more severely? So that the hair doesn't grow back, and just the black skin shows through.
Found it: "With white, gray or roan horses the iron is applied longer resulting in destruction of the hair follicle, which results in a hairless or bald brand."
Hope that helped :-)

faye 07-17-2011 10:10 AM

On a grey they hold the brand on for 5 to 10 seconds longer and kill the hair entirely. The hair does not grow back and you can see the black skin underneath.

Greys generaly are done on the shoulder rather than the saddle patch simply because the lack of hair can cause rubbing.

Freezebranding does not hurt a horse All my horses are Freezebranded and every single one of them stood like statues for it without the need for any sedation or twitches.

PecuniaMiAmor 07-17-2011 03:30 PM

^ Ditto to Faye.

One of our stallions, Escamillo.

faye 07-17-2011 03:42 PM

That to me doesnt look like a freeze brand, i looks like a hotbrand.
Freezebrands should not be raised after the settling period (normaly a week)
this is what a normal freezebrand looks like on a grey

nrhareiner 07-17-2011 03:43 PM

A brand needs to be applied to where ever you have your brand registered for. If you are branding a horse you need to do some research in your area and see where the brand can be registered. If not then really why brand a horse? Each state will have a registry for brands and if your brand is registered to be on the left hip that is where it needs to be.

faye 07-17-2011 03:51 PM

Nrhareiner, only in america. In the UK you can freezebrand any horse for identification purposes and to prevent theft. Same in mainland Europe.

The brand can be done in several areas on the horse. On dark horses it is normaly done on the saddle patch on the near side of the horse. On greys normaly on the near shoulder. on splodgey ponies it is normaly done in any dark patch that can be found!
I've even seen some horses freezebranded along thier neck.

nrhareiner 07-17-2011 03:59 PM

Again it has to do with registration of the brand. Is there a place that tracks brands over there? If so they the brand needs to be registered. Part of the registration is not only the design but also location. If the brand it not registered then what good is it? If someone can not go and find that brand and find out who owns that brand?

I have my brand registered in several states. One bad thing here is there is not central registry each states has their own registration so if you do not know what state the brand is registered in it does no good. Just having a brand and not having it registered also does no good for proving ownership.

faye 07-17-2011 04:56 PM

we have 2 central registrys in the UK, Farmkey ltd and Freezebrand ltd.
They both have a standard brand, farmkey has a 4 figure brand (so 4 random letters and numbers) registered to that one horse, freezebrand has a 3 figure brand.
However both companies will do personalised brands provided they are not already in use.

Brands are registered to the horse and along with microchip numbers will help identify the horse in case of theft. Farmkey have a 99% recovery rate for stolen horses, Freezebrand is a similar figure.

Horse ownership details are held in the National Equine database and you "should" register the addition of the brand with the NED when you have it done.

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