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LynnF 08-02-2011 09:57 AM

3 year old. Second time jumping.
 
This is my 3 year old quarter horse Java. I have put 60 days of training on him and this was our second time jumping. I was just wondering what you guys think of him as a hunter/jumper prospect. I am trying to sell him and am wondering if he would be more suited to the english world or the western world. We are well on our way to a sliding stop and he has had a rope swung off of him but I think he might make a good jumper as well. I was hoping for some input on whether I should market him as a jumper or not.
Thanks :)
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HorseOfCourse 08-02-2011 10:05 AM

He's cute! Why can't he be an all- arounder?
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ginaxmarie13 08-02-2011 10:05 AM

He is so cute!!! I ride the hunters, and he uses his neck very nicely even over this small jump! If he can learn to get his knees even, he looks like he would make a great hunter as long as his striding between the fences is consistent. Gymnastics helps with the knee thing, like bounces and one strides. And he seems to enjoy jumping by his happy expression :)

Gillian 08-02-2011 10:07 AM

No reason he can't do both! In fact, that would make him WAYYYY more marketable.

LynnF 08-02-2011 10:21 AM

Thanks for the input guys. Like I said this was only our second time jumping so I don't really want to start any gymnastics or anything too tricky for him until he calms down and gets good at just one jump. I have been marketing him so far as started both english and western but I am wondering if I would have more luck if I just picked one discipline and stuck with it.

ginaxmarie13 08-02-2011 10:34 AM

If you don't think he can handle learning two at once, then don't do it. But if he is happy and remembers what you teach him, then go for it! I've trained a couple horses to jump, and it really really helps to put a couple ground poles before the fence so they learn where to put their feet. As they get used to it and get some more scope naturally, then the gymnastics come in handy, but yes you're right not for awhile. but i agree, i think you should try the two disciplines! :)

Allison Finch 08-02-2011 11:34 AM

He seems to be a cute horse, but one photo is not much to go by. Any way to post a video? One taken from the side?

Please, don't jump anything higher than this, at his age. He needs flatwork to get him into the jumps with enough haunch engagement and balance to be ABLE to get his knees up and even. I suspect he was very heavy on the forehand, as judged by where his knees are going.

Go slow with him, right now. I know he is for sale, but slow flatwork, especially at his young age, will go farther toward getting him ready for jumping than just tossing him over a jump.

mls 08-02-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Allison Finch (Post 1121408)
Go slow with him, right now. I know he is for sale, but slow flatwork, especially at his young age, will go farther toward getting him ready for jumping than just tossing him over a jump.

I agree. At three they are not yet balanced. Jumping will add to the confusion of 'where do my feet go'?

Flatwork will build the leg from the inside out. Horse will be sounder - longer.

sarahver 08-02-2011 11:47 AM

He is a nice horse with a wonderful attitude and could be a lovely prospect for many dicplines I imagine.

In my humble opinion, 60 days is not enough to begin jumping and 3yo is a little young. I would be working on establishing a strong foundation. Personally, if I was looking for any type of jumper and came across a 3yo that had begun jumping after minimal flatwork I would avoid him like the plague.

In regards to the following:

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Originally Posted by LynnF (Post 1121307)
Thanks for the input guys. Like I said this was only our second time jumping so I don't really want to start any gymnastics or anything too tricky for him until he calms down and gets good at just one jump.

This thinking is a little backwards. Any horse can throw itself over a single 2 foot jump. Teaching them to jump correctly is much harder and requires gymnastics/cavaletti work to establish good form. I would recommend starting with ground poles and teaching him distances/striding first.

All that said he looks like a nice horse and I wish you luck finding him a good home.

MIEventer 08-02-2011 11:53 AM

I am flabbergasted that you are even considering to jump him, when he's only 3 years old. If I was in the market for a horse, I would bypass him seeing that he's already jumping fences at that young of age - just asking for joint issues down the road.

Just because you market him as an English Horse, doesn't mean he has to be jumping. Focus on tons of dressage work, where you are riding him competantly so he can be using himself efficiantly, to develop a nicely balanced, sound happy horse - so that when he is ready to jump, he'll be that much more prepared and successful at it.

One has to understand that jumping is dressage with speed bumps. Dressage is an extension of your jumping, what is the most important factor to the sport, is the quality of ride you have between your fences, which is what makes your fence good or bad. It's not about pointing to a fence and just going over it.....its about setting both you and your horse up for success.


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