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jumanji321 08-17-2011 12:56 AM

Kimberwicke bit
 
I'm looking for some opinions on a kimberwicke bit. My trainer suggested one for my mare because she resists my D-ring quite a bit. She can go in to frame but I have to fight her a lot to acheive it. I know what they are and I know what they do but I am just looking for outside opinions on it.

P.S. I am trying it first to see how she is with it.

bubba13 08-17-2011 11:16 PM

What sort of Kimberwick--what mouthpiece? Has your horse been ridden in a curb before? Personally, I prefer a Pelham.

FreeDestiny 08-18-2011 12:27 AM

I'd look into a pelham first too. With reins attaches to both ends you have the option just to tweak with the curb as a 'hey listen to me' type thing and ride regularly on the first rein. As for a kimberwicke you are always using the curb and have no 'lighter setting'. If you are really into a kimberwicke I would go with a low port mullen mouth. :) depending on if your horse is fidgety in the mouth, you can also get low-ports with a copper bead in the centre for them to play with. :)
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jumanji321 08-18-2011 12:38 AM

I tried a waterford tongiht and she was a lot better. I don't know what kind of mouthpiece yet because it's my coach's and I didn't use it tonight. Yes she's been ridden in a curb before.

FreeDestiny 08-18-2011 12:44 AM

Waterfords are good for full-mouth feel, but I've heard they shouldn't be used as brakes though, have you looked into medical reasons your horse could be refusing the bit?
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jumanji321 08-18-2011 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeDestiny (Post 1140797)
Waterfords are good for full-mouth feel, but I've heard they shouldn't be used as brakes though, have you looked into medical reasons your horse could be refusing the bit?
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It's not that she's hard to stop, she just resists the bit the whole time. She really softened up tonight and yes, we had a vet look at her teeth and they were fine.

Alwaysbehind 08-18-2011 08:01 AM

On the original question, another vote to go to a pelham before a kimberwick. Much prefer the ability to control how much curb action you are using that two reins gives you.


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Originally Posted by jumanji321 (Post 1140803)
It's not that she's hard to stop, she just resists the bit the whole time. She really softened up tonight .

I am not sure going to more bit can equal softening and not resisting the bit when we are talking about bits with contact.
I can see how it would feel like that because with more bit the horse is easier to make do things.

Have you considered looking into changing from a single jointed bit to something like french link or other double jointed bit? Or maybe a solid bar mouthpiece. Some horses just do not like the way a single jointed snaffle works in their mouth.

Ashley at Rivermont 08-18-2011 01:11 PM

I like Kimberwicks, but I know several friends who are judges that hate them. That's the only downside is if you're showing you may find judges who will penalize you for it.

Dressage10135 08-18-2011 01:19 PM

Agree with bubba and AB, I'd try a pelham if I were you. Your horse sounds a lot like mine used to be and once I got him in the pelham it really helped a lot. The double reins are nice in the fact that you can control just how much leverage you want to be using.

This is the one I'm using; very simple, "soft" mouthpiece, but with that curb rein can have a bit of bite if you need it:
Coronet Mullen Mouth Pelham Bit - 3/4" Cheeks Pelham Bits English HorseLoverZ.com

Rachel1786 08-18-2011 01:42 PM

My trainer used a kimberwick on my mare a few times and I didn't like it and neither did she, while he stop was much better she kept getting behind the bit while riding and then after stopping she would throw her head up. I went back to using her loose ring oval mouth snaffle which she does very well in when she remembers she has to stop when asked :-P


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