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boomboom 08-27-2011 06:40 PM

OTTB critique
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Potential new horse. Critique away :) What does everyone think she is build for? Hoping to get more pictures.

boomboom 08-27-2011 07:02 PM

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^^ video of the mare. does she look off to you? or just possible racing soreness?

As well as this guy !
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blue eyed pony 08-27-2011 10:26 PM

The photos aren't that great but I personally prefer the red mare. There's just something not quite right about the black/bay's hind legs, and to me, he looks spooky.

The red mare may have a slightly upright shoulder, if this photo is anything to go by. The video isn't helpful as she is in motion the whole time. The gelding has better shoulder angles but I really don't like those hind legs. He looks base narrow, cow-hocked, and possibly sickle-hocked. He also tends to stand under himself. The mare's stance is much better.

Going on the video the red mare looks like she has pretty good ground manners. Yes, she is a little off in the trot - looks like muscle soreness to me but I would have a PPE done, with x-rays, just to be sure it's not arthritis as some of these racing TB's go arthritic really young. A lot of TB's are 'daisy cutters' as in they have very flat action, especially in the trot, and she may be one of them, or she might just be sore. Perhaps she doesn't know how to use herself properly - that is very common.

All in all I personally prefer the mare, she has a lovely eye and a very honest expression. Comparing it to the gelding, his expression is almost alarmed, and he may tend towards being oversensitive and hard to handle. It might just be the moment, in which case I wouldn't use it to promote the horse (just me), or it might be that this particular horse IS constantly worried about something. I had a horse like that and boy was he hard to work with!

Edit to add; the mare may be a little over at the knee but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Overall her legs look pretty good, though her cannons may be a little on the long side - very common in TB's, but usually the TB leg is stronger than it looks.

boomboom 08-27-2011 10:49 PM

Thank youu! I know the pictures are not the best, I will try to take some Friday.
I do have this weird thing in me leaning towards the gelding, not sure why. I hope that he is standing in an awkward position. Though the mare's price is much lower ! I will try to have an open mind going in for both to give each a fair chance.
I do quiet like the mare's movement, provided it's just muscle soreness causing her to be slightly awkward. She looks like she has tons of reach to her stride. I am told the gelding has amazing movement too so it has me stuck!

jfisher256 08-27-2011 10:57 PM

I agree with blue eyed pony. The mare has a kind expression and looks like she has a nice personality. That's not to say that the other one you posted isn't, but that's just what I got from her picture.

boomboom 08-27-2011 11:06 PM

Just want people to keep in mind that they raced just last week. I do agree the mare has a kind eye, she reminds me a lot of my tb I have now.

IquitosARG10 08-27-2011 11:18 PM

I like the gelding myself :) He has high withers like mine, and sometimes it can be a challenge to keep up that topline once they start losing the muscle in there down time after being off the track. The mare does have a kind eye though and she looks like a nice mover. He does look like he has low heels in the back though. As far as him looking spooky I would disagree. I work on the backside of a track and they all get that look in their eye sometimes - he probably sees something or is all hyped up after a workout. But, you would know best after seeing him and getting a feel for his temperament. Do you know exactly why the horses are for sale/adoption? Not fast enough, retired, or previous injuries

boomboom 08-27-2011 11:27 PM

Yay ! haha :) My currently tb has high withers so I defiantly know how hard that can be ! He has been off the track 2 years, and in my hands for a year and he's now fat as can be.
His heels are very low in the back which I believe is contributing to the awkward hind I hope !
I was told they both were not fast enough. Though I can't seem to find the geldings race information and pedigree.

Mares pedigree: Imsosweet Horse Pedigree
Gelding's name is Ceasar's Legion but no where to be found !

IquitosARG10 08-27-2011 11:32 PM

Try, that's where I got all my guy's can view the PPR's for each race and also watch videos...although you do have to pay - but totally worth it because you can just download them :)

IquitosARG10 08-27-2011 11:36 PM

Also, you may or may not already know this, but the low heels could potentially cause problems such as caudal heel pain (navicular disorder). I would have a vet get some radiographs just to make sure. Sometimes when they're young and at the track they are not shod as they should be, and the shoes aren't long enough in back and it can cause problems like that...usually it can be corrected with some good trimming and maybe some bar shoes...not saying he has this, but it's something to watch out for, it tends to be prevalent in thoroughbreds.

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