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misskingraven 08-28-2011 06:03 PM

How harsh is this bit?
I use this bit on a horse that I ride, and am just wondering how harsh it is. Also, what are the pros and the cons about the bit. I dont personally like it, but I dont have the option to change it to something I like, so I figured I would get some more info on it!
Thanks :)

tempest 08-28-2011 06:33 PM

There isn't a picture.

Ray MacDonald 08-28-2011 07:04 PM

Ahaha no pic :)

misskingraven 08-29-2011 01:28 AM

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Oh my gosh, I did that on my last post too, I must be tired!
Here is the photo of the bit, it's not very good, but I managed to get the one side.

bubba13 08-29-2011 01:40 AM

It's a Wonder bit. Looks like you're using it on an English bridle, with no curb? In that case, it's functioning like an elevator gag.

bubba13 08-29-2011 01:43 AM

"Gag bits (called elevator bits in the English world) seem to have a negative connotation, perhaps because their name conjures up images of a horse spitting and choking on a too-tight mouthpiece. In fact, when used correctly, gag bits can be quite mild. I personally like them (and Wonder/Half-Wonder bits in particular) for teaching the breaking at the poll elements of collection, flexion, and lateral movement to a green horse moving out of a snaffle. Gag bits are popular in the training pen, barrel racing and in gaited horse communities.

Physically, they are composed of the mouthpiece (often a chain or snaffle mouth), shanks of varying lengths, and a curb. What sets them apart from ordinary curb bits is that the mouthpiece is not fixed in place—it is free to move and slide about. This is the “gag action.” When pressure is applied via the reins, the bit rotates and the mouthpiece slides around the ring. When the curb has tightened as much as it can and/or the mouthpiece reaches the end of its track, increasing pressure is applied from the mouthpiece. Poll pressure is also applied as the curb mouthpiece slides and the bridle effectively shortens. This gag action gives the horse plenty of warning from the time the rider picks up the reins to the time harsh pressure is applied. It also allows for independent movement of the shanks, meaning you can “pick up” one side of the horses head without affecting the other—great for lateral movement."

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