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Wheatermay 08-31-2011 01:49 AM

Another color question!
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:shock:Of course this is another question on color. Shocking! This is my friend's yearling colt (actually gelding now, but we still call them colts for some reason). He is reddish colored with really odd whorls or cowlicks (not sure what they are). His mane is peppered And his tail is darker than his body. No dark points. He has white hairs evenly throughout his body that started appearing this spring, and several spotted areas (one under his chin, his chest, and base of his tail.

I forget what the mother was (chestnut or bay, altho I think bay), and the father was a paint.

So the questions are:

What color is he considered?
What is his mane color called?

Wheatermay 08-31-2011 01:55 AM

mother was a quarter, also!

bubba13 08-31-2011 02:32 AM

The white flecks are sabino spots, which is also associated with the roaning and high stockings. They should qualify him for regular APHA registration. Base color is just sorrel. I know less about the effects of sabino on the different body hairs than some other posters here, but I suspect that that is what is causing the mane coloration--some might call that flaxen, but I disagree. Someone may come by and tweak some corrections into my explanation.

Wheatermay 08-31-2011 02:37 AM

She was thinking sorrel, and the vet put him down on his papers, and coggins as roan. I have never seen a mane like that, and apparently not many have. Another friend of HERS said he only had seen one horse with a mane like that when he was like 8! He's 40 now!

Wheatermay 08-31-2011 02:41 AM

I dont agree with flaxen either... flaxen is blonde or white to me....

bubba13 08-31-2011 02:44 AM

Vets aren't generally very well versed in colors or genetics. Nor are their techs. I've had Coggins papers come back marked as "chocolate" or "black" (for my seal brown) and better yet, "tan and white" for my dad's dun Paint.

Wheatermay 08-31-2011 02:47 AM

lol, tan and white, lol... No I have noticed, but she didnt seem like she wanted to draw all his little spots on the coggins paper, haha!

bubba13 08-31-2011 02:51 AM

Then there were the vet and tech swearing up and down trying to convince me that they had seen gray skip a generation ("not often, but it does happen!"). And that chestnut/red is dominant, but some horses, apparently, are "more dominant" than others. And that frame overo is recessive, or else not the same thing as OLWS. Or that a homozygous black horse threw a sorrel colt.....

Wheatermay 08-31-2011 02:52 AM

Ooops! I forgot a sorrel or chestnut is one thats mane is the same or lighter than their coat. I wish I knew what that mane color is called tho, hehe...

BTW, Bubba13, I was relaly impressed with ur art! U make me wanna take up the hobby again!

Wheatermay 08-31-2011 02:56 AM

See, Im not that educated in colors, so I'd take their word for it, but I also look it up and also say "Im not sure, but the vet said this...". Ur pretty educated in this, but ur not proud enough to say u dont know! Ur a good guy, lol! U remind me of me! LOL! I agree with sorrel and sabino. Im still googling to try to find a mane like that tho!

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