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Coyote 09-03-2011 10:16 PM

Barn design thread.
 
So I got bored not too long ago, and decided to create a barn under the idea of "Trainer/boarding" facility. http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/ima...ilies/cool.png

I thought I would post it here and see what the thoughts on it were.
Would you board there? Does it look safe? Concerns? Comments? Suggestions?

Key:: Blue Lines are Windows, or possible window placements (Windows will be dutch door style without the door part). Red Lines are Exterior doorways. Green Lines are Internal Doorways. Black Lines are normal walls and/or Stall dividers.

Stall size: Regular stalls are 12x12ft, Mini Stalls are 8X8ft, The Large Stall is 12x16ft with a sloping angle reaching 8ft. The stalls would have Wood/bar sliding fronts with concrete block dividers (Blocks would be lined to kickboard level in rubber matting.) I haven't decided if I would put bars in the dividers or not. Any thoughts on this?

Tack Room is 24x24ft. The Interior stairs lead to an Apartment/House on the second story. In my own imagination, the tack room will also hold a small Sink/Toilet Bathroom off to the side.

Wash area is approximately 14x14ft with a small indention due to the wall.

"Quarantine Area" is added mostly due to my imagination, but while also considering convenience for medical procedures/Stall rest. It would be approximately 36x24ft, while this is very large -- I can see it being scaled down with livestock panels. Better too big than too small correct? The Thicker line indicates a solid brick wall. This is for security and to prevent the spread of illness.

The paddock adjacent to the "Q-area" would be covered by the buildings roof and/or a small balcony (Living area depending.) It is 42x24ft and is accessible by the "Q-Area" Only. The fence there would be Wooden up to 5ft with bars reaching from 5ft to the 7ft mark.


So without further interruption, here is the drawn out floor-plan .

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...LowerLevel.jpg

ponyboy 09-04-2011 06:55 PM

If I may be so bold, I don't think you've provided enough exits for fire safety. I would put another one next to the Lg-stall in the bottom corner.

How much of the second floor would the living quarters upstairs cover?

Also, what program did you use to create this?

newbhj 09-04-2011 07:05 PM

Ooh I hope lots of people reply to this!
I like the design but you should put another exit on the bottom of the plan.

Coyote 09-04-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponyboy (Post 1162205)
If I may be so bold, I don't think you've provided enough exits for fire safety. I would put another one next to the Lg-stall in the bottom corner.

How much of the second floor would the living quarters upstairs cover?

Also, what program did you use to create this?

1. After talking to a few other people in the industry I have concluded that for safety concerns, there isn't enough exits (As you said). So-- I decided that instead of merely windows, I would make actual dutch doors. A window with an exit as a bonus.

2. I haven't yet decided the upper level yet, I am thinking right now however that it would probably only cover half of the lower area. From the left wing to the center of the lower "L" shape.

3. I free handed this on a editing program called "Gimp" -- After I decide all of the details, I may decide to make a 3-model in another program.

Red Gate Farm 09-04-2011 09:55 PM

I would not have any stalls next to the quarantine/sick/foaling stall. I would take those two and make that the wash area for the following reasons:

1. Keeps your healthy horses away from quarantine/sick horses.

2. Keeps the horses away from Mom and new baby if used as foaling stall.

3. It would have water hook up, therefore a nice, close hose area to hose out the quarantine/sick/birthing stall after that has been used.

4. Takes the wash stall off the corner and opens that area up for something else.

Coyote 09-04-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Gate Farm (Post 1162355)
I would not have any stalls next to the quarantine/sick/foaling stall. I would take those two and make that the wash area for the following reasons:

1. Keeps your healthy horses away from quarantine/sick horses.

2. Keeps the horses away from Mom and new baby if used as foaling stall.

3. It would have water hook up, therefore a nice, close hose area to hose out the quarantine/sick/birthing stall after that has been used.

4. Takes the wash stall off the corner and opens that area up for something else.

Well actually, The quarantine area is separate-- if you read in my comments above the floor plan. There is a solid wall separating all of the stalls from that area.

I hadn't thought of the water issue though, so thank you. I will have to write a note about including a spigot or something within that area.

Lonannuniel 09-04-2011 10:13 PM

I too design stables! if you're looking for a 3D program, try google sketchUp. it's free and easy to use!

your design -

I like it, especially the mini stalls.

I'm not too sure about the wash area, i'm trying to imagine it in my mind. are there walls surrounding the area? or is it just sort of an open space w/ a hose?.

Red Gate Farm 09-04-2011 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coyote (Post 1162375)
Well actually, The quarantine area is separate-- if you read in my comments above the floor plan. There is a solid wall separating all of the stalls from that area.

I hadn't thought of the water issue though, so thank you. I will have to write a note about including a spigot or something within that area.

Yes, I went back and read the part where it was separate with a solid brick wall and thought that was smart. :D

Then I looked at where you put the Tack/Feed room and realized you would have to walk down the hallway, out the door, and around the building outide to the opposite corner in order to feed or administer first aid. Your first aid station would be in the Tack/Feed room right? I don't see it listed anywhere else. I thought it might be easier to have an opening into the quarantine/sick/foaling stall from the barn. You'd have to move those two stalls in that case, but you wouldn't have to go outside. I live in Alberta and it gets COLD here in the winter. I'd prefer to stay in that warm barn :lol:

The drawback is you lose two stalls.

The benefit is you can move the mare into the wash area to clean her off after birth, or the sick horse to soak a hoof or rinse off a swollen leg, etc, in addition to the other benefits I mentioned.

churumbeque 09-04-2011 10:35 PM

I am surprised you are getting so many positive comments. I see lots of wasted space. The borrom RH corner with nothing makes no sense at all. That should be a stall back into the corner with the door moved. The aisle ways are huge and the corner by the lounge is really awkward and I do not like all the hard corners in weird spots, the quarantine area is gianormous and it gets the paddock while the small stalls get nothing. 14x14 wash are would be ok but not with the indentaion.

Coyote 09-04-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonannuniel (Post 1162386)
I too design stables! if you're looking for a 3D program, try google sketchUp. it's free and easy to use!

your design -

I like it, especially the mini stalls.

I'm not too sure about the wash area, i'm trying to imagine it in my mind. are there walls surrounding the area? or is it just sort of an open space w/ a hose?.

The wash rack is just an open area with a slight downward angle on the floor with a drain in the center. The hose would be located near the corner, so that it could be used on either side of the "corner". I made it this way so that more than one horse could be tied in the wash area at the same time. Granted, there would probably be only space for two horses before the aisle would be unsafe, however at the barn I currently work in having a long line for the hose is very annoying. Considering we wash all the horses right after the work out one at a time....waiting 15 minutes per horse takes a lot of time when there are 15 horses to wash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Gate Farm (Post 1162401)
Yes, I went back and read the part where it was separate with a solid brick wall and thought that was smart. :D

Then I looked at where you put the Tack/Feed room and realized you would have to walk down the hallway, out the door, and around the building outide to the opposite corner in order to feed or administer first aid. Your first aid station would be in the Tack/Feed room right? I don't see it listed anywhere else. I thought it might be easier to have an opening into the quarantine/sick/foaling stall from the barn. You'd have to move those two stalls in that case, but you wouldn't have to go outside. I live in Alberta and it gets COLD here in the winter. I'd prefer to stay in that warm barn :lol:

The drawback is you lose two stalls.

The benefit is you can move the mare into the wash area to clean her off after birth, or the sick horse to soak a hoof or rinse off a swollen leg, etc, in addition to the other benefits I mentioned.

I did think about adding another door in that wall, but I don't like the idea of creating the potential to spread illnesses. Other than that, I also want to severely restrict the access to that part of the barn-- I would want no "visitors" intruding without permission to baby the "poor sick horse". Then returning to their own horses with whatever germs they may have picked up.

I live in a pretty warm climate -- Oklahoma. So cold isn't much of an issue for me, I think walking outside a couple of feet to feed or check up on an injured horse would be worth the sacrifice if it meant keeping sicknesses in line and unwanted "visitors" out of the area. I might enjoy it less on days that I would have to walk out there 30 times in one afternoon, however I hope that the usage of that area would be limited, I hope it isn't needed much.

As far as cleaning and such goes, I do think I would put a spigot in that area to allow for water access. In the case of medical care, I would have to haul the vet-kit down the aisle either way, so I don't see it as too much of an issue.


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