What we learn from THEM, after they hurt US!
Willy really kicked my arse the other day :?
I thought maybe we could share negative things our horses have done to us (bites, kicks, bucks, pushiness, etc) that really made us think about what were doing wrong :oops: (This thread inspired by "Hurting Horses") I think the more we understand the horse, the more we'll understand how to discipline correctly. I think we could all learn a lot from eachother's experiences :)
I brought Willy to his new barn and had him out in the arena, loose. There was a gelding in a stall that protruded into the arena, so Willy kept going over there and squealing, stomping, etc. I was trying to keep Willy away from the other horse (our first day, didn't want anyone hurt, especially when the horses' owner wasn't around). Long story short, Willy got pissed at me and threw a kick my way that landed on the inside of my upper thigh, just above my knee cap.
He dropped me to the ground. Huge bruise :( . I swear that guy coulda broke my knee if the shot was slightly lower. Needless to say, we're starting ground work next week!! He's usually a lover, but I was in his face, in a new place, with a new horse around, and I was asking for trouble. I was an idiot!
I had this horse buck me off once b/c he was tired and didn't want to canter. Either that or he didn't want to canter in the round pen, but he had before so I don't think that was it. He was running and bucking at the same time and I was sliding off of him towards the round pen. Anyways, I almost hit my head on the iron bar of the round pen. I kept a hold of the reins because I didn't want them to get caught around his feet if he took off. They were short, so I didn't have to hold on to them, but it was a reflex. He fell on his butt, then got up again. I hosed him down and walked him around. It was really scary for me, and I'm sure he was scared too. I didn't punish him though because he had fallen and I didn't want to hurt him.
Pistol knocked me down and stepped on my legs once, my calf and my thigh. He was trying to get away from another horse that was after him and he jumped in my lap so that I could "save him"....
My injuries have all been stupidity related, Not really training related. Anytime I have been kicked or bitten its been when I've just been out in the herd with no restraints on any of them. Sorry about your bruise geewillikers, want to compare? I have one at the moment on the top of my foot where Vida stepped on it. Its been so swollen at times I can hardly get my boots on. I don't think its broken :?
I had the girls in the driveway this week, I let them eat the grass there, when the gait came open at the road. I ran down to get it closed and herd Shiloh away from it. She took at head high kick at me. I swear that hoof was inches away from my face. My husband was standing a ways away and he thought she had connected it was that close. Pheew another bullet dodged :lol:
You think your horse can't hurt you? ....think again. I've been bitten hard enough to have a scar, kicked hard enough to drop me to the ground, stepped on, knocked down, nose bloodied, teeth chipped and had my back broken by horses. I'm still saddling up :D
My younger one kicked me once. It was just month I got her from wild, and we thought she may be pregnant. So the BO suggested to touch her tits to see whether they get bigger. :shock: Well... She kicked. Not hard (just warning kinda), but unpleasant. That was stupid idea anyway, and of course I didn't punish her at all as I blame myself only. for being silly.
Pistol reared and we bumped heads once and I broke my nose and he reared once and my shirt got caught on the saddle horn and he blackened my eyes....
Pistol reared while I was mounting once and I chipped my tooth... He's such a sweet boy... he loves me......
Oh yes of course they love us :lol:
My husband had a down under bruise on his butt from falling off our old horse Fancy. It was appropriate it was in the shape of Australia including New Zealand. :P
A few things that I've learned over the years....
I think that one of the mistakes people make when dealing with a horse is trying to make it think on our level.
That aint going to happen.
Horses are what they are. It's much easier on both the horse AND the owner, to learn to think on their level.
Some horses are so easy going that they don't much care what you do to 'em and will tolerate things that other horses won't.
I call these "people horses".
Most things that they won't tolerate is due to their fears.
You may or may not be able to get them over certain fears. So if you get into a situation wherein they pin their ears, raise their head and get all wide-eyed and/or turn their butt to you..... ya need to stop trying to do whatever it is you're trying to do that they "think" they need to defend against. Or they WILL attack you.
It's strictly a survival instinct and "love" don't enter in to their equasion when they go into survival mode.
Some horses are smarter than others. Or I should say that some horses are less hard-headed than others.
From what I've seen of 'em over the years, even a "smart" horse is still perty dumb..... compaired to say, a dog or a pig. That being the case, one needs to have a lot of patience, and go real slow, when working with, or teaching them a new thing.
If you ever think that you are fully in control of a 1000-pound animal, think again. When you get right down to it, the only control you have is what it lets you have.
Having said all that.......
Once an understanding is reached, and once a bond of trust is established.....the relationship between a man and his horse can be a beautifull thing.
It all gets much easier after that.
There have been a few times where i'm surprised Vega hasn't hurt me severely. I *used* to let her loose in the arena so she could stretch her legs and get some of her sillies out. Well there were a few times where i'd stand by the gate and she'd run around and stop close by me to eat grass. It wasn't until i'd try to get her when she was doing that, that she'd swing her butt to me and kick out. I saw her butt come towards me and i believe i ducked. There was someone riding in the next ring and asked if I was ok. I was in shock as to what just happened.
After i bought her and i would try to lunge her, she would turn her butt to me and kick out at me. I almost got kicked a few times.
I have no idea how i escaped all of that, but i feel lucky, very lucky.
I no longer let her run loose, and now when i lunge her, it's on line.
I have been fortunent when it comes to bucks/kicks/rears/etc.. The only thing nana has done was push me with her head and maybe bite at my boot when i was in the saddle.. Nana is a good horse tho.. But we are alot smarter than horses but sometimes i even doubt that because horses can be pretty clever :wink: .. it all comes down to mental control, and showin them mental domination, because sometimes mental control is better than brute strength.
Hope you guys could make out what i was tryin to say.. sometimes i just plan stink at wordin what i want to say. :roll:
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