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justineaiken 09-10-2011 12:10 AM

4 month old Help!
 
Ok so I have this little 4 month old filly who i got about a month ago. I read online that by at least a month of age a baby should be letting you put the halter on, leading, tieing, groomed etc. So she leads very well i got her very calmed down but there is just one problem i keep running into. She wont stand tied with out either pulling back as hard as she can or rearing. I also read that if they pull a certain muscle in their neck the can be paralyzed. So i need some advise! :) thanks

DraftyAiresMum 09-10-2011 12:19 AM

Three words: Blocker Tie Ring!

They are wonderful! This eBay listing has an explanation of how they work (I can't use search engines on my computer or I would have looked up an article on them for you): Blocker Tie Ring 2 With Mag-Lock - Chrome | eBay

I still tie my two-year-old to the blocker ring at our barn, even though he stands tied rather well. He has this nasty habit of untying himself. :-P

DejaVu 09-10-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum (Post 1168184)
Three words: Blocker Tie Ring!

They are wonderful! This eBay listing has an explanation of how they work (I can't use search engines on my computer or I would have looked up an article on them for you): Blocker Tie Ring 2 With Mag-Lock - Chrome | eBay

I still tie my two-year-old to the blocker ring at our barn, even though he stands tied rather well. He has this nasty habit of untying himself. :-P

Yep, that'll fix it. It releases when they stop, so they don't freak out further, causing more damage, and meantime, they learn to stop pulling. Also, if you're not able to tie to one, loop the lead loosely, once, around a strong post. When she pulls, the loop will just slide so there's not hard pull on her neck making her want to pull harder.

Lakotababii 09-10-2011 03:33 PM

The tie ring may help quite a bit, as others suggested, but I would be careful. I have seen horses who learn to pull using those, because they release their pressure by continuing to pull. Personally, when I am somewhere I want my horse to tie to anything I need him to, without any tie ring.

So teach your foal to give to pressure. Lay a rope around say a fence post (something sturdy), without tying her, and then stand facing your foal, holding the end of the rope. Gently pull on the rope, so that the foal feels pressure coming from the direction of the post (mimicking being tied). Hold the pressure until the foal takes a step forward. After that, let some slack fall on the rope (as it should naturally). REPEAT MANY TIMES. This way you are teaching the foal that pulling back is not the way to relieve the pressure, but instead taking a calm step forward is what helps. However, if the foal freaks out, you have no knots to untie and you can easily start over without an injury to the foal.

This horse is extremely young. This skill, if taught early, will last a lifetime and will help with leading and the basic principle of responding to pressure, which can help with riding, leading, and standing in a trailer.

Good luck!!

outnabout 09-10-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakotababii (Post 1168605)
The tie ring may help quite a bit, as others suggested, but I would be careful. I have seen horses who learn to pull using those, because they release their pressure by continuing to pull. Personally, when I am somewhere I want my horse to tie to anything I need him to, without any tie ring.

Given I have no experience raising/training a foal and rely heavily on advice from others, this makes perfect sense to me for all the reasons you state in your post. Grateful that this post appeared now, too, as I was going to begin tying training with my 6-month old Eli tomorrow! Was going to use your method, Lakotababii.

Good luck, Justineaiken!

Rowdy Girl 09-10-2011 04:10 PM

Seems this baby was not imprinted at birth... shame, it make's a colt/filly soooo much more managable ! If you want really good advise, go to www.Robertmiller.com He is a Vet that pretty much has the low down on training techiniques... best of luck !

usandpets 09-10-2011 05:19 PM

With a tie ring you can increase the tension by having the ripe go over itself after going thru the tie ring if the horse just pulls the rope thru. You can do it a second time around for even more tension which is almost the same as being tied solid.

Instead of pretending to tie to teach them to give to pressure, have them standing away from you. Pull on the rope to create the pressure. When the horse takes a step toward you, immediately release the pressure on the rope. Then when you go to tie, they'll already know to give to pressure.
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Lakotababii 09-10-2011 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by outnabout (Post 1168627)
Given I have no experience raising/training a foal and rely heavily on advice from others, this makes perfect sense to me for all the reasons you state in your post. Grateful that this post appeared now, too, as I was going to begin tying training with my 6-month old Eli tomorrow! Was going to use your method, Lakotababii.

Good luck, Justineaiken!


Good! I am glad it has helped :-) I personally have seen a horse rear up and break his neck when he freaked from being tied. He died instantly :-( Pretty much a bad accident. My BO where my horse is at now has tie rings for that reason. They help with a panicked horse, but I don't like them for my gelding. She used to use them for all her horses but then they all started to pull back :? So now we try to teach them all to stand nice, then use the rings, makes for a safer environment for everyone.:wink:

trailhorserider 09-10-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowdy Girl (Post 1168642)
Seems this baby was not imprinted at birth... shame, it make's a colt/filly soooo much more managable ! If you want really good advise, go to www.Robertmiller.com He is a Vet that pretty much has the low down on training techiniques... best of luck !

I imprinted my foal and kind of regret it. He's fearless. If I had to do it over again, I would skip the imprinting. But he does tie great! I just flat out tied him to a solid object when he was a wee lad (maybe 2 months, I don't remember) and have been doing it ever since without issue. Probably because I had worked on leading him practically from birth and did the whole imprinting thing with him.

So it does have positives, I'm just not sure the negatives don't outweigh them. I mean, I do wish he had just a little fear of me sometimes!

justineaiken 09-11-2011 09:32 PM

Thank you everyone! This advise has really helped me :D


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