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post #1 of 14 Old 02-20-2017, 11:21 AM Thread Starter
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Question Basic Reining Cues?

Hi! I'm new to this forum and am looking for advice on cues for riding a professionally trained reining horse. There are no reining trainers reasonably close for me to use and I have a reining horse that was also trained for Mounted Shooting. I bought her to use for mounted shooting and we've done ok. I'm not a great rider and have not ridden all my life like so many people. She is also very small. I've gotten used to cantering bigger horses (much easier) and am just getting used to cantering her. I love my horse but she is not very patient with my learning process so if I can learn the cues she was trained to respond to, that would certainly help us communicate better. I've had a lot of lessons but there are so many different ways to train a horse!! Is there a good website? Any ideas or help? Thanks!
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I would have someone who,has ridden reiners, ride her, to see her training level, because, as you know, in order for a horse to respond to a cue, they have to be taught it!
Then a reiner is trained to work off of legs and seat like any other horse, plus a finished reiner is going to be up in the bridle, thus working off the neck rein, and with more lightness and feel then , say a western rail horse, recreational horse ect
In other words, they are taught to move away from pressure, just like any horse, and one whom is able to be ridden one handed, and has learned to stay evenly between the reins and legs
while one uses trotting while training a reiner, reining patterns themselves don't have any trotting steps.
Once the hrose has the basics, there are ways you set them up and teach a correct spin,sliding stop ect, and your best bet is to watch some reining videos
Larry Trocha is by no means the only reiner, nro the most acomplished, far as any show titles, but he does have a series of videos on youtube that you might find helpful
I will post a few, and you can google some more. There are also some good books on reining, by people like bob Loomas, Craig Johnson, Tim McQuay,etc
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Good videos and comments from @Smilie

First of all, I am not a Pro/Open level Reiner. Take my comments accordingly.

As Smilie said a "finished" Reiner is in the bridle and their specialty is neck reining. If your seat and legs have big holes you might find an experienced reiner a little confusing. They are waiting and listening to your legs and seat at all times.

On a good Reining horse you can simply slow your hips down to transition from a fast lope to a slow lope and slow them more to a trot and a little more to a walk. I'd recommend practicing this and see how your horse reacts.

It really depends I guess on how exactly the horse was trained, but generally speaking (if inaccurate for some horses) we don't rate a reining horse with the reins and bit but with our seat. Lifting the reins is basically setting the parking brake, it can be confusing and frustrating for the horse.

I agree, if you have a trainer in your area it is worth it to get a checkup and get some tips. Good luck!
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I feel for you -- I once got thoughtlessly on a finished reining horse and when I laid a rein on her neck she just lifted up and spun around like top. I did not. She found me rather contemptible, I believe.
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^ I don't know of a site that specifically breaks this down into cues, the original question. Larry Trocha and some of the Judge's Corner videos you can find are about the best videos on this. Les Vogt has some stuff, but it gets more into Reined Cow Horse. They are very similar at the basic building block level.

In the short term I'd also recommend that you pay detailed attention to where you are putting your weight and pressure with your seat and legs. For example, I can do a circle by just applying outside hip pressure on a good reining horse.
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I feel for you -- I once got thoughtlessly on a finished reining horse and when I laid a rein on her neck she just lifted up and spun around like top. I did not. She found me rather contemptible, I believe.
Lol!
I got on my old reining mare, once,after she had been retired to broodmare for several years-bareback.
Having ridden all around horses, thus doing slow turn over the haunches in trail and eq., for the last years, I had forgotten as to how responsive she was.!
I accidentally put a leg on her, and that old gal left me in the dust!
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I'm no good for adding riding advice of where to find....

But I am so glad that others will admit to "eating dirt" and being left in the dirt occasionally.
, we can so laugh at ourselves.

Mine... I was exercising and learning to ride some reining maneuvers.
As the horse unknown to me was responding to my oops cue to slide stop...
Well, not used to a horn or grabbing mane...he dropped those haunches and up, over the saddle cantle and off his butt I went.
Horse slid the arena then came back looking down at me like, "Hey stupid what you doing their?"...
All those watching were laughing so hard, including me I could not stand up.
Dirty, filthy from arena dirt but hysterical laughing.
In my defense the horse was a finished older world champion open horse...he could move and spin gorgeous, just not with me.
....

The worst day is instantly better when shared with my horse.....
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Yep - I've learned her stop. I've learned what they mean by riding with your weight in your heels. Not much else and it definitely is fun to ride her! Fun story, thank you!
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Hi! Thank you for your reply! I did not ask much about her reining experience because I bought her for mounted shooting. My problem is that she is a mare in the truest sense of the word and she gets frustrated with me. She does not like to canter and lets me know. She will trot for 12 hours without stopping! But she throws her head when we start to canter and I have to argue with her for a while and at least now I am winning the arguments as opposed to last year when she won a few and was able to toss me. In all my lessons over the years, I've learned to ride with my legs but I'm not sure I know what it means to ride with your seat. She is a tiny thing and when we canter I feel like I'm riding a cement block so I know my seat is not good. And she fights the bit. I've got her in training but the place is a quarter horse show type barn, an extremely good one though and she gets ridden by them and me a lot.

So lifting the reins should be her cue to slow down? And lowering them on her neck means go faster? I need to get her to go slower so my shooting can keep up with her. When she goes to fast, I'll miss the balloons. We/the trainer is trying to teach her to rate like a regular quarter horse, like in barrels or something.

For anyone not liking guns, she has been trained to ignore the gunfire, we don't use real bullets, only blanks, and she wears earplugs just like I do.
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