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Can a horse with a bad trot do reining?

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    07-29-2012, 01:45 AM
Reining is good for horses, it really helps with all sorts of equine events. The video didn't straight for me, LOL!! I tried to watch, but my neck was letting me know, that wasn't going to work, I guess I'm getting old, lol!!
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    07-29-2012, 01:48 AM
LOL nah it won't go right way for me. I don't know why. If I could still edit that post I would. Haha. So sorry. :)
    07-29-2012, 09:22 AM
I also am too old and creaky to watch the video. However, I agree that reining is a great base for any horse. I just had 8 months put on my guy, who is a grade, and now does all the manuevers-not great-but they are there. However-he is 1000% better at everything. I would highly recommend reining training, and as long as you are not looking to be really competitive, you may be able to have some fun and learn, which is always good. Yes, reiners primarily are "lopers", but there is a new NRHA pattern this year which includes trotting.
    07-29-2012, 11:51 AM
You know what's really cool, is the NRHA Cowtown Classic is now doing a 4D format, similar to barrel racing:

What is 4D?
It is a four-division scoring system (1D, 2D, 3D and 4D) with the highest score being declared as the 1D winner. The division breaks are determined from the highest score as follows; 2D marker is the highest score minus 2.5 points, 3D marker is the highest score minus 5.0 points and 4D marker is the highest score minus 7.5 points. The score closest to the division marker without going over is the division winner.

Example: The highest score in the class is a 74 and is declared the 1D winner. Subtract 2.5 points from 74 to determine the 2D marker (71.5). Next, subtract 5.0 points from the top score to determine the 3D marker (69); and lastly subtract 7.5 points from the top score to determine the 4D marker at (66.5). Again, the closest score to the division marker without going over is the division winner.

I hope that other shows are going to start to use this format. I think it's a wonderful idea!
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    07-30-2012, 01:22 PM
Then it is not NRHA sactioned class. NRHA has a very set rules about who is eligable for what. Like Shawn can not compet in a lower class then the Open. So if you did what you are talking about it would add in more chances for the top riders to kick out lower riders.
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    07-30-2012, 02:30 PM
Personally, I see nothing wrong with the way it currently is. Why fix what isn't broken?

Not sure how that new scoring system relates to this thread? Just sayin........
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    07-30-2012, 04:18 PM
Some people have found that they are intimated by some of the riders, this is a format that would help them compete against others that are at the same level as them. I've seen too many ppl ride in classes that they clearly have no business riding in, only because the class description states: LTE's of $500 or less. Give me a break! I can't stand seeing people who use that as an excuse to ride in beginner classes.
    07-30-2012, 05:40 PM
No not really first if you are better then what you are riding in you will point or earn out of that level quite fast and will have to move up next year.

Also think about it like this. By using a format like that the top riders will be winning more and outing the other in lower areas. I have seen shanw score a 235 all the way down to a 215 in the same show on 3 different horses. The horse with a 215 would not be in the money but with this format the horse most likely will be. So now what happens to the riders who can not compet with Shawn but now have too?

If NRHA goes to this type of format it is just one more reason why they will looose riders. They are only cattering to the top riders and owners. Just like changing the rules for the Futurity and derby. It is only hurting the horses and the grass roots of the NRHA.
    07-30-2012, 05:41 PM
I will also say that the way NRHA scores your run you are competing against yourself. If you are intimidated by other riders then maybe you should think about why you are showing.
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    07-30-2012, 06:47 PM
Sorry, OP-we continue off track.....

As an amateur reiner-I mean REALLY green, I have found that the NRHA is the LEAST intimidating of any discipline I have ever ridden in. They are extremely supportive of the beginners, and I have never seen such a nice, helpful group of people. I come from Hunter/jumper, so if you think reining is intimidating, try something else.

NRHA even has different levels of Greens, so that even tho all the greens run at the same time and are running the same pattern, there are 2 different levels being shown simultaneously. I ride in Green I, but am riding at the same time (same draw sequence) as the Green II's. Same goes for some of the other classes, which MAY be what is confusing? Perhaps someone here is not aware that 2 slightly different levels may be running together but awarded seperately?

Only time I have seen Pros ride with the ammies MAY be in the Green HORSE classes......perhaps? I know I have seen that, altho, we all put our pants on one leg at a time, and they can have a crappy ride on any given day also-especially on a greenie....... (granted their odds are better than mine, but oh well) Doesn't bother me one bit, but I am kinda "over" folks being "famous", I guess.

All in all-I doubt they will be changing it anytime soon, so if you aren't happy, don't show in NRHA rated shows!

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