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    08-23-2012, 02:53 PM
Question Four beat canter...

The other day I was watching a reining show and I noticed that a lot of riders cued their horses for four beat canter instead of collected canter. I ride english and get yelled at for four beat canter... I have ridden some reining classes before although I know I'm not that good... But is this just my area that is doing four beat canter? Also, aren't you supposed to be docked points for four beat canter? Please don't take offense! I just want to know! Thank you!
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    08-26-2012, 08:40 AM
Green Broke
Oh, dear. That is very sad to hear. I don't keep up on the show world. I hope what you saw was just a local fluke and not a trend.
    08-26-2012, 09:18 AM
Sometimes only a split second determines a canter from a fourbeat. When horses fourbeat there is usually either a saddle fit problem or the horse doesn't quite have the confo for the slow lope. And yes, I've seen judges place 4 beaters in a pleasure class.
    08-28-2012, 09:05 PM
It's kinda common at smaller events, the trainers focus so much on the front end and not the hind end when they come back to that slow lope.. They need to focus on the hind end and the front end will follow.
    08-29-2012, 11:15 AM
I have found that people who do not really know about reining have a lot of misconseptions as to what it is and how things work.

I was at a CMS pracitice last night and at the end we where goofing off and the one lady has a nice little Arab mare who looks like she may have had some reining training. Nice turn in the front but the lady was pulling her back and making her back as she was asking for the turn. I told her to not pull back but push the mare forward. Let her walk into the turn and cross over a time or 2 and walk out. She and anouther lady could not understand how the turn could be a forward motion so I showed them with my mare. She gave it a try and the mare started to loosen up in the front end.

This along with many other things I have seen at the smaller or local level with people who do not truely understand what reining is. It can be a very solid base for what they are doing.
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    08-29-2012, 10:41 PM
Ok, I feel like I've learned somthing yay! Thank you all for replying!
    08-29-2012, 11:02 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
I told her to not pull back but push the mare forward. Let her walk into the turn and cross over a time or 2 and walk out.
we always had ours walk in a circle, then gradually make it smaller and smaller until they eventually were just crossing over.....same basic concept I guess

But anyways for the 4 beat it used to be "the thing" in the small local shows I used to do...i never did fact I quit when they started placing them over normal gaited horses....

But im pretty sure its supposed to be "illegal" now or nto sure I havent stayed up with the show circuit
    08-29-2012, 11:48 PM
From what I've seen in pleasure classes its still out there full force. I cane find a trained wp horse in this area that doesn't 4beat and they win all the time. Aqua put in a new class now for horses with normal gaits called ranch horse pleasure. No 4 beat there but the wp classes are full of them
    08-30-2012, 12:35 AM
I don't know about not placing them over other horses, unless everything was exactly the same except for that.. because it can be penalized as a break of gait. (still talking about reining..)
    08-30-2012, 10:04 AM
Keep in mind that reining has a scoring system that is accumlative. So while a 4 beat canter is not what they want. Unless they do call it a brake of gait their score will simply reflect a bad small circle. So if a horse can plus all the other parts of the pattern that may play a small role in the over all score.
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