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    02-01-2011, 05:45 PM
  #11
Foal
Sorry off the topic but........ I love ur horses mane! How did you get it like that?
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    02-01-2011, 07:41 PM
  #12
Weanling
Thank you thank you.

I'll go ahead and take more advantage of you guy's knowledge..

I can't find specific bit rules.. could you direct me to that? (maybe a link?)


*OMG. Thank you! Due to your advice I just found at Todd Martin lives 20 minutes away from my house! I am totally riding a real reiner for my birthday! Wow! I'm excited!!

Shall I keep this as a progress thread? I don't want to keep dragging it up or anything if no one's interested. I'll be sure to post pictures and stuff, especially in March when I go to Todd Martin's ranch.
     
    02-01-2011, 08:14 PM
  #13
Weanling
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Shall I keep this as a progress thread? I don't want to keep dragging it up or anything if no one's interested. I'll be sure to post pictures and stuff, especially in March when I go to Todd Martin's ranch.
You should keep it as a progress thread .
I'm quite interested in your story. I am just kind of getting into reining myself. My mare just spent 60 days at a training stable who breeds and competes in reiners and working cow horses. During that time I started taking lessons on an ex-barrel horse which really helped with me getting good timing and working towards refinement of cues.

Depending how things go, the open shows around here have a reining class at the end of the day that I'm considering going in. Maybe not until next summer though.

I'm so excited to start working with my own mare (next Monday should be our first lesson together!!) and I'd love to follow someone else's progress.
     
    02-01-2011, 08:25 PM
  #14
Weanling
Dizzynurse-
That's okay! Everyone always wants to know about his "highlights"
I don't do anything to his mane except: wash, condition, and spray it with Santa Fe. It's always been that way. Strangely, it gets even blacker the further into summer we go. His tail's the same way. We call him a bucknut since he's a chestnut with a black&blonde mane and tail. I guess he's like... A sooty chestnut. Haha.

DieselPony-
Awesome I will! You should post your progress on here too! We can compare notes!

(ie: where the heck do I get an affordable reining saddle?)
     
    02-01-2011, 09:35 PM
  #15
Trained
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Originally Posted by Clair    

I can't find specific bit rules.. could you direct me to that? (maybe a link?)
The only place that bits are addressed in the NRHA rule book is in the judges section. There is a diagram with measurements of the max legal bit.
     
    02-01-2011, 09:39 PM
  #16
Trained
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Originally Posted by Clair    
Dizzynurse-


(ie: where the heck do I get an affordable reining saddle?)
A good reining saddle is going to cost you about $2K. Now you might be able to find a used one for a bit less if you keep your eyes open.

I would suggest you try a few different reining saddles as they are different then a normal saddle in the way they sit and ride and what works in a regular saddle may not work for you in a reining saddle and how you sit is very very important. When you take lessons ask to use some of the trainers different saddles and see what you like and what works best for you.

Also do not get caught up in the beginning in getting a reining saddle. It does make things easier but you can show in a saddle that is not a reining saddle. I shows the first few years in my Rope saddle and still school quite a bit in that saddle. When you start looking to be competitive and move up that is when you will need to get a reining saddle to get a better feel and cue to the horse.
     
    02-02-2011, 07:44 AM
  #17
Weanling
Does that mean I could ride him in a snaffle? I saw the measurement diagram you are talking about it is a... Shank bit? I'm not that knowledgeable about bit types. Truthfully, my guy is ridden bitlessly.

You're right I'm getting ahead of myself on the saddle!

Can you tell me about rein cues? Like for a sliding stop (I won't attempt one, it's for the sake of knowledge)
Do reiners drape the reins slightly before they give seat cues? I can't imagine there's a lot of obvious rein contact from what I've seen.
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    02-02-2011, 07:55 AM
  #18
Trained
Morning guys! Guess I miissed some posts here last night....

Here is what I got for laminated patterns:

Whinny Widgets - Reining Pattern Books
I love them!

I have found that in my area, some of the little interbarn type shows and some of the really small county level stuff has some reining, which was a great place just for me to start getting "in the pen" without being so intimidated by a major NRHA show, plus, not being NRHA rated, I didn't need my competition license, which I wasn't going to pay a full year for in Sept if last year. Now applying for this year. I have also found that the reining people are absolutely the BEST! THey are super supportive and helpful, friendly, etc. It seems everyone cheers for everyone else in the greens. Naturally it is a bit different when you go up the levels. I just was not used to the nice atmosphere, being used to h/j stuff all my life.

I also found that the judges DVD's are extremely helpful. I found them on eBay, and have about worn them out. It really helps to be able to see the little things they look for.

As far as saddles-my personal experience has been that a reining saddle helps immensely. Love the close contact, pocket, etc. and find it really helps me to get the cues more accurate. I am a real tack addict, so I actually have 2 at the moment, and am looking at a third, which means I may have one to sell.....let me know your size via PM and perhaps we can work something out. Yes, it does cost about $2k for a good one, but I have been happy, at least for starter, at my level, with more of a beginner reiner, and love my Rocking R. I also have a new Tex tan that is gorgeous, but I find it is a bit narrow in the shoulders for my horse, and I just like the Rocking R better, for a lot less $$. The Tex Tan will be returned, and or traded for a custom JR Wenger, when they get back in the spring.(IF he will agree with me on tree size.....)
     
    02-02-2011, 10:52 AM
  #19
Trained
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Originally Posted by Clair    
Does that mean I could ride him in a snaffle? I saw the measurement diagram you are talking about it is a... Shank bit? I'm not that knowledgeable about bit types. Truthfully, my guy is ridden bitlessly.

They show a bossal and a snaffle b/c they at times have a 3yo snaffle classes in which you can use either. However I have not seen on at any shows for about 10 years. All other classes are shown one handed in a shanked bit

You're right I'm getting ahead of myself on the saddle!

Keep your eye out for a used one. You can get a nice saddle broken in well and properly for a good price. I like the saddle smith saddles for the lower levels. They are nice well made and are a good price even new. You can usually get a used one for about $1500.

Can you tell me about rein cues? Like for a sliding stop (I won't attempt one, it's for the sake of knowledge)
Do reiners drape the reins slightly before they give seat cues? I can't imagine there's a lot of obvious rein contact from what I've seen.
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It is hard to tell you how to cue a horse over the net. It is about timing and correct balance and seat. Cues are something better tough in person.
     
    02-02-2011, 11:16 AM
  #20
Trained
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Originally Posted by Clair    
Does that mean I could ride him in a snaffle? I saw the measurement diagram you are talking about it is a... Shank bit? I'm not that knowledgeable about bit types. Truthfully, my guy is ridden bitlessly.

You're right I'm getting ahead of myself on the saddle!

Can you tell me about rein cues? Like for a sliding stop (I won't attempt one, it's for the sake of knowledge)
Do reiners drape the reins slightly before they give seat cues? I can't imagine there's a lot of obvious rein contact from what I've seen.
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We must have been posting at the same time this am. I am no bit guru, but my trainer used a full cheek to start the training in, then transitioned to a shanked bit. From what I know, if a horse is over 5 (I think) they have to be shown in a shank. That was what I was told.

Perhaps NRHA would weigh in on this and give an opinion, but about the only things I would think you could really work on without the advice of a reining trainer would be:

Get your horse stopping without any pressure at all on the bit, and get your horse really responsive to you. When you say (with your seat) stop-that means stop now-not in a step or two. My trainer has me reinforce that with immediately backing up most times we stop.

Make sure you can move the front, mid and hind both ways with your weight and legs.....sidepasses, turns on the haunches, etc.

Make sure you have great transitions to the lope from a walk and a standstill. Again-that means now, not a stride from now. Also at the lope, get your circles nice and round. Work on getting your horse totally adjustable (speed up and slow down) with just your weight (I also hum, which was how my trainer trained mine). Lots of circles, transitions (every couple of strides sometimes....)

DO NOT try to slide stop or spin without a trainer. It is super easy to screw up and not so easy to fix once they are doing it wrong. He also told me NOT to work on the rail.

Those things are just what my NY trainer told me to work on/do over the winter since I didn't have a reining trainer here in VA.
     

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