how to Spin? - Page 5 - The Horse Forum
 79Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #41 of 78 Old 05-12-2013, 03:47 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: mountian back woods
Posts: 1,569
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by franknbeans View Post
Toto-Op did not explain WHAT quality of spin she wanted. Just because she is doing local stuff does not mean she doesn't want a quality spin. That was the purpose of my posts explaining the differences.

Op-Personally I would doubt what has been suggested will work. Not from any of the trainers I know, but feel free to try it. Worst case-horse will stand there, just like now, I guess.


She didnt say she wanted a quality spin either. She said she knows her horse can spin and she didnt know how to make her-- I told her a simple way to do it. I don't see you giving an opinion-- well I do but theyre all just like this one-- if you wanna argue me and stay on topic tell me that grabbin the horn gets you a five point penalty .. tell me somethin on topic.


Lol, you doubt it will work yet you have no opinions of your own to help?


OP, if this don't work I've got another suggestion..
toto is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #42 of 78 Old 05-12-2013, 03:52 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: mountian back woods
Posts: 1,569
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by nrhareiner View Post
I have yet to see a reining horse cued this way. It would not work on any of the reiners I have ever owned or ridden and the list is quite long.
I've ridden quite a few reining horses that were cued this way. Pressure on the outside leg and tapping with the inside. Others youd leave inside opened. I tap for speed, or cluck.. either or


What would you do?
toto is offline  
post #43 of 78 Old 05-12-2013, 04:02 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: left of center
Posts: 7,078
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by toto View Post
She didnt say she wanted a quality spin either. She said she knows her horse can spin and she didnt know how to make her-- I told her a simple way to do it. I don't see you giving an opinion-- well I do but theyre all just like this one-- if you wanna argue me and stay on topic tell me that grabbin the horn gets you a five point penalty .. tell me somethin on topic.


Lol, you doubt it will work yet you have no opinions of your own to help?


OP, if this don't work I've got another suggestion..
Toto-Several of us have stated we will NOT give an opinion, and we have stated MORE than enough times the reason why.

NRHA-that must be how they do it wherever Toto is. Not in any of the USA where we are, since that is a totally new one on me.

I am done. Toto can argue with herself, and Op can try whatever she likes. Best advise-get a trainer to help you.
nrhareiner and Muppetgirl like this.

Signature undergoing edits. Please standby.......
franknbeans is offline  
post #44 of 78 Old 05-12-2013, 04:15 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: N.W. Ohio
Posts: 5,344
• Horses: 0
I agree. I am not going to give an opinion on this as I do not have enough info. Plus at the end of the day there is no way to actually tell somone how to do something with out being there and watching what they are doing at THAT given moment. It is not just pushing on the out side and opening the inside or what ever you may want to say. It is the PLACEMENT of the leg on the outside and the inside. That is why I stated when my friend was riding she was getting the correct cues but not in the correct spot. This is why I moved her leg so she could feel where the corrrect spot was. Once she got what it felt like she progressed well considering. Am hopping her scedual allows her to come again this summer and see if she remembers. However not sure that will happen.

OP> Anyway. Best bet is to get pro help or at least the old owner and have them watch you ride.
franknbeans and Muppetgirl like this.

-I'm so busy... I don't know if I found a rope or lost my horse.
-An Armed Man is a Citizen an unarmed man is a subject.
-Where ever free speech is stifled Tyranny will reign.
nrhareiner is offline  
post #45 of 78 Old 05-12-2013, 07:19 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 4,982
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by nrhareiner View Post
I have yet to see a reining horse cued this way. It would not work on any of the reiners I have ever owned or ridden and the list is quite long.
Agreed, I've ridden a handful of reiners, both rusty and in show shape, not single one would have responded to those ques. My trainer probably would pull me off the horse and smacked me
Posted via Mobile Device

Last edited by SlideStop; 05-12-2013 at 07:26 PM.
SlideStop is offline  
post #46 of 78 Old 05-12-2013, 10:16 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: mountian back woods
Posts: 1,569
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by franknbeans View Post
Toto-Several of us have stated we will NOT give an opinion, and we have stated MORE than enough times the reason why.

NRHA-that must be how they do it wherever Toto is. Not in any of the USA where we are, since that is a totally new one on me.

I am done. Toto can argue with herself, and Op can try whatever she likes. Best advise-get a trainer to help you.
You get a 5 point deduction for touchin the saddle or the horse durring your run, lol. Why do you think they hold their hands up so the judges can see it?


Quote:
Originally Posted by nrhareiner View Post
I agree. I am not going to give an opinion on this as I do not have enough info. Plus at the end of the day there is no way to actually tell somone how to do something with out being there and watching what they are doing at THAT given moment. It is not just pushing on the out side and opening the inside or what ever you may want to say. It is the PLACEMENT of the leg on the outside and the inside. That is why I stated when my friend was riding she was getting the correct cues but not in the correct spot. This is why I moved her leg so she could feel where the corrrect spot was. Once she got what it felt like she progressed well considering. Am hopping her scedual allows her to come again this summer and see if she remembers. However not sure that will happen.

OP> Anyway. Best bet is to get pro help or at least the old owner and have them watch you ride.

I know anything is possible-- but is it really possible to do as I just said and still be straight as an arrow on the horse? Even after grabbing the horn? Im pretty sure the body would go along with it.. or maybe not.. im not a people trainer-- I can only tell some one how id do it and answer any further questions.. I was going to say try to bite your ear- but I didnt want OP to fall off in the spin.

Not to be a butt-- but you just gave somewhat of an opinion.. if the OP don't get it now- it aint happenin. Sorry.

It tickels me that you actually had to place the leg for your friend.. not even makin fun- you're a good friend.. ida told mine to 'figure it out'
toto is offline  
post #47 of 78 Old 05-12-2013, 11:24 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: N.W. Ohio
Posts: 5,344
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by toto View Post



I know anything is possible-- but is it really possible to do as I just said and still be straight as an arrow on the horse? Even after grabbing the horn? Im pretty sure the body would go along with it.. or maybe not.. im not a people trainer-- I can only tell some one how id do it and answer any further questions.. I was going to say try to bite your ear- but I didnt want OP to fall off in the spin.

Not sure what you are getting at here so I will not comment.

Not to be a butt-- but you just gave somewhat of an opinion.. if the OP don't get it now- it aint happenin. Sorry.

I may have given an opinion on the fact that I have never seen it done that way is almost 20 years of breeding and showing reining and reined cow horses.

It tickels me that you actually had to place the leg for your friend.. not even makin fun- you're a good friend.. ida told mine to 'figure it out'
Why should I wast my time and even more important her time and the frustration of my mare and make her figure it out when it is very simple to walk up and move her leg an inch and say now ask with your leg here vs where it was and see and even more feel the differance? Fact is that she learned more in about 3 days of riding reiners them most people learn in 3 months. The fact that she was sitting on a well trained very proven mare with guidance right there next to her giving very exacting info at the monent that it was needed moved things along quicker then if I had just said figure it out. Fact is that she probably would never have figured it out. Having watched the video of her riding through out this time you could not see what she was doing wrong in the turns. In the video it looked good for the most part at that point. Now on some of the other things she was doing the video came in handy to point out problems and more then that for her to put a picture with a feel. This is where I find video taping to come in very handy.
franknbeans and Muppetgirl like this.

-I'm so busy... I don't know if I found a rope or lost my horse.
-An Armed Man is a Citizen an unarmed man is a subject.
-Where ever free speech is stifled Tyranny will reign.
nrhareiner is offline  
post #48 of 78 Old 05-13-2013, 12:05 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: mountian back woods
Posts: 1,569
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by nrhareiner View Post
Why should I wast my time and even more important her time and the frustration of my mare and make her figure it out when it is very simple to walk up and move her leg an inch and say now ask with your leg here vs where it was and see and even more feel the differance? Fact is that she learned more in about 3 days of riding reiners them most people learn in 3 months. The fact that she was sitting on a well trained very proven mare with guidance right there next to her giving very exacting info at the monent that it was needed moved things along quicker then if I had just said figure it out. Fact is that she probably would never have figured it out. Having watched the video of her riding through out this time you could not see what she was doing wrong in the turns. In the video it looked good for the most part at that point. Now on some of the other things she was doing the video came in handy to point out problems and more then that for her to put a picture with a feel. This is where I find video taping to come in very handy.

What I was gettin at is-- can the body still be straight as an arrow if cueing right? In order for me to be able to hold pressure on the outside (left) leg and tap with the (right) inside leg-- or keep open- with the reins in my right hand (turning right) and looking where I want my horse to go (to the right) I have to have my hips (cocked) to conform to the horses body and the movement to the right.. if even a beginner did this would they not automatically move the hips in such a way too? (like im going to do a leg yeild)


Wait- you ride nrcha too? very awesome!



Your mare the one that won the trophy? ..is she a palomino? if its who I think it is- im going to poop my pants!! I love her.. I think!


What flaws could the video show that excluded spins? Was it because of the angle of the video?
toto is offline  
post #49 of 78 Old 05-13-2013, 01:19 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 9,420
• Horses: 1
Toto, I see you have been on this board for a total of two months. I have some advise, wait until you know people, as you are criticizing some of the people I would go to for advise if I was interested or riding western. I think you are making an error as you have not been around for long enough to know - and if I did that, I'd want a heads up.
Muppetgirl and toto like this.
AlexS is offline  
post #50 of 78 Old 05-13-2013, 01:33 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: mountian back woods
Posts: 1,569
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
Toto, I see you have been on this board for a total of two months. I have some advise, wait until you know people, as you are criticizing some of the people I would go to for advise if I was interested or riding western. I think you are making an error as you have not been around for long enough to know - and if I did that, I'd want a heads up.


I've got nothin to prove to anyone-- im respectful even when insulted.

I don't even know what you're talkin about?


I don't come here talkin out my.. butt.. if im cocky its because I know what im doin and im good at it-- I know the people that have been here a long time want to have a go with me today and that's fine. Ill never put myself in a situation I can't handle. I can swim- throw me in the deep end!





.

Last edited by toto; 05-13-2013 at 01:37 AM.
toto is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Does anybody spin their own yarn? Shoebox Hobbies 16 09-18-2012 10:36 PM
Training to spin LivingtoRide Horse Training 24 07-29-2012 11:37 PM
Speeding up the Spin kolson Reining 4 05-26-2011 05:50 PM
The Spin PaintingMissy Reining 4 02-08-2011 06:34 PM
Critique his spin? Waybueno Reining 15 08-12-2010 09:09 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome