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post #11 of 15 Old 03-27-2013, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
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He was entered in one class. He has been a fat lazy pony even when he was really showing as a younger horse. Out of shape AKA fat.:P

I've been riding him more and the more frequent I ride him the better and better he does.

The guy I am buying him from isn't a trainer. He lives quite a ways away and helped me on the lead changes when I had issues with Playboy bouncing his butt into them.

These spurs have a longer neck than my other pairs. I know how to use them, Playboy normally needs constant leg contact to keep him moving and not stopping.:P

I've been working on counter cantering, doing circles then keeping him in the wrong lead into the opposite circle them letting him change on the second circle, along with tight counter cantering circles. He still isn't improving on the changes. I've given him speed, made him stay collected, nothing. Only the front changed.
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post #12 of 15 Old 03-27-2013, 06:14 PM
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Mango, if he's being that lazy you need to ask with your legs and if he doesn't move of straight away you need to have one of split reins ready to spank his butt. You should never have to work harder than the horse. Pop him every time he ignores your leg cue to move off.

The thing with reining horses is that they have to always show willingness, forwardness and be light. They have to give the illusion of being an effortless ride, and the really good ones are effortless to ride.
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Your horse is anticipating your lope offs. I would practice setting him up for lope offs but not ask for them until he gets over it. The spins, you didn't reaaly help him by setting him up after he fell through the stop in the middle. Schooling show, home, pull him into the ground when he ignores your stop cues. He is being lazy, make him work if he doesn't try hard. If I have one that gets lazy like that I will make him work on some small circles then run down the arena and ask for a stop again. If he doesn't try hard, make him work. If he puts some effort in his stops, then he gets a break. Same with the turnarounds. He wasn't set up and he wasn't putting any try in them. He was just lazily swapping ends. Make him trot some small circles, then let him come into a walk and let him step into the turn around. If he gets sucked back and starts swapping ends push him out and ask him to trot small cricles. He will figure out that doing it right is easier than being lazy and doing it wrong. Rushing through leadchanges could be from being spurred into the change, anticipation or not enough speed and not being setup for it. Lots of counter cantering and counter arcing on the circle without a change, get him relaxed and get him balanced. Get him outside of the arena and do something else on him if you can for a little while, you guys look cute together, I would hate for him to get burned out :)
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post #14 of 15 Old 03-30-2013, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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Here is the thing with his turns, I can't feel him do it. I've done what you guys have told me to do, but I can't feel when he is swapping ends. Like I said, he normally never turns like that at home they are must faster and cleaner. I'm going to be going to a reining clinic next weekend, so hopefully they will be able to show me how to feel it.

I am VERY thankful for all of your answers:) but it's a little different reading it then putting it to practice. I don't learn by reading, I have to learn it while actually doing it. I have been making him work a little harder; I think I was scared of accidentally doing something too hard or disiplening him and ruining him (which I know better now)
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post #15 of 15 Old 04-07-2013, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
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Thought I'd update ya'll on how the clinic went;)

GREAT!:) We got him spinning good, got me to (mostly) quit my flapping legs asking for a back up XD and we kinda worked on setting up for lead changes but never doing them.The whole time I was there I was like, oh I remember somebody saying something along those lines on HF. Much easier to understand when somebody is there with you;)

I also got to work him on the mechanical cow, which was fun. First time it moved he jumped down to the ground like a cutting horse, then everytime after that he was like "oh...it's fake."

Be wary of the horse with a sense of humour. - Pam Brown
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