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    03-05-2011, 09:27 PM
Need Spinning help

So I have some videos of Twinkie spinning some old some newer, and I comment that he is dropping his shoulder into the spin, I hadnt noticed it and don't really know how to fix it?

Also he tends to hop through his spins if I ask him to pick up the pace but if I keep it slow he keeps crossing over, is there a way to get him to stop hopping through the faster spin?

Also my other question is how can I get him to get down more? He's always seemed to have this fear of really sittin down when doing anything, barrels, slide stops, cutting cows, he just doesnt want to get down, could this be caused by his last owner not using skid boots or any kind of back leg protection when she would slide him?

Here's some spin videos from newest to oldest, neither of which are really recent because i've been working on his headset in the spin, his heads getting nice and low now :]
you can also see him hop in the second video when I asked for 'a little' more speed.

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    03-06-2011, 12:18 PM
First check his hocks. This will account for several of the problems you are talking about.

Next he is a big stepper. This is the type of horse who tends to be a hopper when pushed faster. Meaning he takes a large side step in the turn and is not as quick footed at most turners. Not a bad things but leads to several issues ( not necessarily problems) First is the hopping which you are seeing with speed. Other is the shut down at the end and getting it quick and clean at the correct spot.

As to fixing it. There are several things you can try and some will even help with the dropping the shoulder. One is side pass into the turn. Next is trot and ask for the turn as you are trotting. Then only do one or 2 cross over and trot out of it. Try and get his stride a bit shorter through the turn. Also once he starts his turns take your foot off and control his speed with a kiss rather then your leg. A lot of people will train the turn and bump the horse each stride as he steps out. This causes the horse to take a bigger stop out. Again not a bad things but can (again not always) cause issues.
    03-07-2011, 10:55 PM
We do something different.... We drive the forward into the bit in a small circle of the direction of the spin you are working on.... The key is keeping them square in this process.... Basically you keep your inside leg on them and drive them forward with the outside leg.... There is allot of feel involved... they fall outside the circle more outside leg... inside more inside and etc....

The key is keeping that inside leg on them the whole time...This should help with keep that shoulder up.... The head/neck should be straight, nose tipped the direction of the turna nd the neck line level with the withers....

You can do this at a walk or trot... I like to do it at a trot... Once you feel that they are sqaure and staying in that small circle... then drop your hand and remove your inside leg..... the horse should go into the spin... If not pick up and do it again.....

Work on the spin real slow if you feel the hop or over step pick up soft and go back into the exercise.....

Takes time... It works... I will try to get a video of it.
    03-11-2011, 10:31 PM
Thanks guys im going to try out some of these tips and see what I can do.

NRHAREINER- I completely agree with you about the hocks, the next time my vet comes out im going to have him look at Twinks, I also had my chiropractor come out and worked with him and he had a swollen muscle on his right shoulder so I wonder if that's helping with his shoulder dropping at all?
    03-12-2011, 11:42 AM
It could be. I keep mine on a regular appointment with my person and then I also use my Bioscan pads in between. Works wonders.

Saves big time on vet work. Rarely to never have to have hocks injected.
    03-19-2011, 10:47 PM
Bioscan pads? Wheres a reliable place to find more information on these?
    03-19-2011, 11:46 PM

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