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        11-30-2013, 05:21 AM
      #41
    Foal
    I agree the chestnut is not going to ever be a good reiner show horse. Id like to know where trainers are finding good reining show horses or even prospects for 3-5k
         
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        12-06-2013, 03:49 AM
      #42
    Weanling
    This is my reiner I currently own... he is for sale. This is ten months off and on training. Go ahead and critic... He is a steady eddy. My trainer about flew a gasket when I said I would sell him under 5,000 but as everyone else said they sell under commission. If he sells him he gets 10%. If I sell him nothing as he is not in training at the moment. This guy retains like a champ. Only issue is irritability and stall anxiety. The irritability is something I think, think, the trainer isn't concerned and says perfect beginner horse he won't hurt ya. He also thinks I should keep him... two months and finished. I say this is bull more like six months to finish.

    The trainer likes him, but I am disregarding this and want to try something new. Maybe I feel too comfortable on him.

    Go ahead and critic away or disagree on anything stated.

    BTW trainer would not work stops without sliders which I had just put on so stops were rusty. After I got him home I got him working nice on them he can slide decent...
         
        12-06-2013, 04:33 AM
      #43
    Weanling
    As far as pricing and buying a reiner I wouldn't buy mine to progress past novice. He is a Hollywood dun it and safe as all get out beginner deluxe I recommend those lines.

    Be careful vet check, vet check, vet check.... 10,000 range but prices are cheaper.... shop around but bring a trainer with!!! See lots of video. Older reiners have issues a lot of time the training is intensive if the hocks have been injected steer clear. Also if far away purchase review videos with a trainer their eyes see everything.

    Trainers... maybe it is my area but shop around, ask questions... be picky. We have a ton of nasty gossip in our area. Ask rein people and also remember gossip hits every barn. Ask, file, and see for yourself.

    Example one trainer in our area: heard ruins 50% horses... other 50% wins big time. SOOO if your horse has a strong constitution and can take the pressure and you want to win. Politics I am not knocking... I also don't use that trainer because my filly does not have a strong constitution.. she is sensitive and hard working.

    You will have the advantage of a been there and done that horse... still friends of mine have had horses ruined and they we're finished just sent for a touch up... *shrugs*

    Competitive world don't gossip that isn't the best... listen and learn. Be picky about the horse and trainer... but it sounds like you are and are not rushing... best of luck to you.

    P.S. Sometimes I wonder if I want to sell my horse... I am a horrible sales woman...
         
        12-06-2013, 08:28 AM
      #44
    Trained
    Agree with taking a trainer. One you really trust and have a good relationship with. Unfortunately, at least here in the east-reiners have become somewhat "disposable". Way too many are run too hard to young and breakdown mentally as well as physically. There is one running for points right now that even the rider says "who would want him when I am done?" Really rather sad. He is totally burned out in the pen. Many hocks are injected as a preventative, so I would not necessarily rule that out.

    Neil-as far as your horse-he is cute, but too high headed for my taste, and to even do non-pro around here. Travels a bit too much on spins for NRHA circuit, and I agree with you-needs more to finish, for sure. May be worth the price tho for a green person who needs a steady eddy type. He looks to have a hard lead change, and not a lot of distinction between fast and slow. Some trainers would have nerved his tail also, which is something else to watch for. Way too many are nerved. JMHO
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        12-06-2013, 08:29 PM
      #45
    Super Moderator
    Mine new trainer texted me and said she has a 7 year old that the owners will sell for 2500. She said it is really sweet and is talented. She just got it in but I may try to go look at it next week. She's 45 minutes away from me and it's supposed to be nasty weather this weekend.

    I'm not in a huge rush because I've only had a few lessons but I did get a really good sliding stop (1 out of about 5 tries). The other 4 tries were just ok. I got the spin pretty decent, not fast but decent and we worked on a ton of other stuff...

    I would like to be at the point where I can ride w/out a trainer telling me what to do every step of the way and with a new discipline, I'm not ready yet....
         
        12-07-2013, 02:05 AM
      #46
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by farmpony84    
    I would like to be at the point where I can ride w/out a trainer telling me what to do every step of the way and with a new discipline, I'm not ready yet....
    Good luck with that! It is a fun sport and I plan to keep learning. A girlfriend of mine introduced me to the local trainer I use. She spent two years full trainer and two lessons twice a week. He still wouldn't let her show and said she wasn't ready. She also went anyways and didn't do so hot. She told me NRHA people have been riding since babes with a spoon in their mouth. LMAO.... do not take this is my opinion. I do NRCHA and me and my horse got third second show... however that is not AS competitive for rein. They also have rein shows.. a recommended learning place.

    I am still figuring it out myself. At this point a ton of clinics and ten months is still not a lot on my horse. I still feel green as grass and I am. I figure go at my pace and enjoy the ride and learning. This year I am just proud that I learned to execute better moves. I took lessons twice a month for a long time and me and my horse finally have an understanding. This was rewarding in itself. I can get him moving further myself... however the training gets ten times the improvements faster... that is why I pay him lol...

    I figure I still need to learn.... for oh a life time. :)

    IT SOUNDS like a fun journey and you have more props going for you to learn faster then me. Excited for you... and I hope you find a good trainer and partnership with a good horse!
         
        12-07-2013, 02:08 AM
      #47
    Weanling
    Franknbeans: By the way.... thanks for taking your time to help me out on a couple questions. I appreciate the help. A lot of these sports are dwindling some... help people out and they grow. Thanks! Great example to the sport!

    As far as sheriff goes: fast and slow he is great on, not in video!!! Plus I didn't cut in small enough! Good eye! Lead change he is SUPERB on as far as trainers say... my fault!!!! I over cue when he takes light cue there and then he speeds up. Swishy tail an issue at times especially when I over cue... I don't think a trainer has brought up nerving the tail.... I won't do that though. The headset.... I have pretty much given up on! First trainer fought and fought and held... ornery on that! Second trainer corrected and left.... corrected and left it... this seems to work some... been getting better. One out of twenty rides he randomly keeps it way low... so he CAN do it... but prefers not to...

    Sorry... small fry duck in the pond... I am going to move on with my new filly. She is very willing but green yet so time will tell!
         
        12-07-2013, 09:06 AM
      #48
    Trained
    Nell-what bit are you using? Just curious. I am far from a guru, you give me more credit than I deserve, but mine will drop his head really nicely in this bit Sheridan Pro Roller it flexes in all the right places and has really nice feel. You can find nice ones that are very similar without the price tag. My guy is just a grade I play on, and he can be a bit high headed at times. All I have to do is pick up just slightly on this bit, and he drops right down.
    I live vicariously through my BO/BF who has the $$ to do it right….has a Gunner and a Shining Spark and a trainer who is in the top 10 in the nation right now….altho she is "interesting" to work with.
    Farmpony-I would go look soon! Hoping, for that price it has 4 legs!
         
        12-07-2013, 10:27 AM
      #49
    Super Moderator
    I figure it won't be there long.... :(
         
        12-07-2013, 01:41 PM
      #50
    Weanling
    Franknbeans: Snaffle or show bit with one inch port and roller. Oh did he hate that bit at first (the show bit). Actually when I switched to the show bit... I started using the same bit you are using for training now (cheaper brand name). :) He works a little better in that bit. I also use that bit more at home and he works better there... hmmmm.. :)
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