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    12-07-2013, 06:09 PM
  #51
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I am not ready to buy yet, not until I can at least get the stop w/out my eyeballs popping out of my head but this is what I'm looking for. I was hoping to spend no more than 10k but do you think this would be worth the price? I really like it:

DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1910924 - A Carolina Prize
     
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    12-07-2013, 06:14 PM
  #52
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I just have to say I'm SO jealous. A friend of mine has been into reining for a few years now and she introduced me to it and I love it! Good luck in your new venture!
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    12-07-2013, 06:32 PM
  #53
Trained
I watched the video but it made me ask questions, remember I don't know what I am talking about here, so I am happy to be wrong, so these are questions rather critiques.

The horse looks kind of unlevel or uncertain on the back end on some of the circle work.

The spin looked kind of like he was spinning around his girth rather than his back foot.

I see little stretch in the front end in the spin, he looks tight.
     
    12-07-2013, 06:36 PM
  #54
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GH - I don't have a clue what I'm looking at... So I'm glad you are asking questions.....

I liked the build of the horse and the way he carried himself. I noticed he was a little exaggerated on the bend as well....
     
    12-07-2013, 07:30 PM
  #55
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For your price range this gelding is young & already doing well.Prefer him over the one you just posted.
Hawks Boomtothetop, 2010*AQHA*sorrel*Gelding - for sale
     
    12-07-2013, 08:06 PM
  #56
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I am going to have to let my trainer find me a horse I think. She seems to think she can find what I need (a teacher) for about 2500 to 5000. I will need to be patient. The one I am taking lessons on has been really great for me because it's not so dead broke that it will just give what you want, it makes you ask correctly. I like that because then I can figure things out.

My husband video taped me a little bit but it's a privately owned horse that is in her barn because the owner can't get out to ride much in the winter. I don't want to post someone elses horse, especially for a critique.
     
    12-07-2013, 09:45 PM
  #57
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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
I am not ready to buy yet, not until I can at least get the stop w/out my eyeballs popping out of my head but this is what I'm looking for. I was hoping to spend no more than 10k but do you think this would be worth the price? I really like it:

DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1910924 - A Carolina Prize
I am going to agree with GH, he keeps wanting to fall out of the lope in the back which would tell me he is not working from the hindend. The guy riding him seems more worried about the headset than his ass in the circles which again is obvious in the lead changes.
His spins are tight but like GH said he really isn't setting his pivot foot. But from what I am understanding judges aren't as worried about that as long as the the pivot foot is staying in the same spot. They are looking for pretty spins with the head lower than what you see in the cow horse pen.

He looks like he wants to stop hard but the angle from the video you don't see a good side or front view. His stops aren't long but he does get his butt down.

Honestly I would like to see how this horse is bred on the bottom. I think he could improve with the right trainer and the horse seems forgiving. But I would be curious how'd he do as a cow horse :)
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    12-08-2013, 08:51 AM
  #58
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Originally Posted by paintedpastures    
for your price range this gelding is young & already doing well.Prefer him over the one you just posted.
Hawks Boomtothetop, 2010*AQHA*sorrel*Gelding - for sale

Now that horse I do like, I love the rhythm in the lope, I really like a clear distinction between fast and slow circles, seems to be handy and very responsive but showing his greeness at times. LOL my worry with a 3 year old at that level is how he will stand up long time, can't win here!

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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
I am going to have to let my trainer find me a horse I think. She seems to think she can find what I need (a teacher) for about 2500 to 5000.
Carp, where are you? If you can find a teacher at 2500 then depending on shipping it would be cheaper to come down there and go shopping

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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
I am going to agree with GH, he keeps wanting to fall out of the lope in the back which would tell me he is not working from the hindend. The guy riding him seems more worried about the headset than his ass in the circles which again is obvious in the lead changes.
His spins are tight but like GH said he really isn't setting his pivot foot. But from what I am understanding judges aren't as worried about that as long as the the pivot foot is staying in the same spot. They are looking for pretty spins with the head lower than what you see in the cow horse pen.
Whoot, I'm seeing something. This thread is really useful to help me look more critically at sale horses, and that is handy.
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    12-09-2013, 02:34 PM
  #59
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I like the second horse a lot more... show presence and a free mover. The second one seems lazy on the speed up... you can tell he can crank it up faster then he was..... if he was going faster those stops would be a lot prettier. He also wanted to walk out of the stops right away. The add says he can plus spins and the second one was a lot prettier. I have a feeling that horse can do better. The first horse is nice but his movements are a but stiff.... but nice stops! Though I am a greenie so take that with a grain of salt... With a trainers help that horse would definitely improveore with more training.... :) At 10,000 you could go cheaper and the trainer can see flaws and what can be worked on versus what may not so easily be improved upon.... BUT if you buy a 5,000 dollar horse instead of a 10,000 horse how much will the training cost to get to the level you want? Buying a horse for rookie or novice shows... lots to chose from WOW it would be tough!
     
    12-09-2013, 07:41 PM
  #60
Trained
I like the second horse over the first one that I commented on.
He is a prettier mover, the better training and riding shines through over the first horse for sure.

My concern would be why he doesn't want to stay in the ground. Although he is young and just a "snaffle bit-er" Even in the first video where it hasn't quite as obvious you can tell he doesn't want to keep the left hind in the ground and wants to pop out. My eye isn't good enough to tell what exactly what was going on there.

ETA: Love the breeding on the second horse :)
     

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